#2362 - Ralph Barbosa

[00:00] the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day so let's go what are you doing we playing with magnets [00:16] Yeah, man. I'm checking out all your toys. What did you say? His name is Travis? That's Travis Walton. And he's... [00:23] And he's a guy that got abducted, allegedly, by some sort of a UFO in the 1970s. [00:31] And the story was so crazy that it became a movie. It's called Fire in the Sky. [00:36] And I don't know, like I said, I don't know if he's telling the truth, but... [00:39] It's very compelling. He doesn't seem like a liar. And he's been telling the exact same story for 40-plus years. [00:46] I think he's telling the truth. You think so? Yeah. [00:49] I don't know. I don't know anybody. I mean, personally, I don't know anybody who's kept up a lie for that long. There's got to be someone. There's got to be someone that's like, I think people can make a story up and then only keep that lie. Usually, generally, when people lie about stuff, they'll lie about a bunch of stuff, especially something that crazy. They took me aboard a UFO and they fixed me. So this is the story. The story was these guys were all loggers in Arizona. [01:16] And so they're driving down this logging road and they see some crazy light in the sky and it goes into this area. They pull off to the side of the road. They walk towards it and there's this... [01:27] disc that's like hovering, this glowing disc. He walks towards it.

[01:32] And he got really close to it, and he got hit with a beam of light. And he falls back. Like, that's supposedly what it looked like. That's the art. [01:41] The art depiction of it, what these guys saw. [01:44] He gets hit with this beam of light, and they take off. [01:48] They're like, fuck! And they jump back in the truck and take off. He's lying on the ground. And they get like... [01:54] Five minutes away. And they're yelling at each other. We got to go back. We got to go get him. They were scared. And they're like, fuck it. Let's go back. So they go back to go get their friend. And he's gone. [02:03] So – [02:05] Five days later, there's a manhunt for him. Nobody can find him. Five days later – [02:10] He shows up. [02:11] walks into town, [02:13] He's... [02:14] It doesn't look like he's starving to death. He's not out of water. It doesn't look like he's been living in the woods. [02:20] It just looks like [02:22] He... [02:22] I won't... [02:24] just like a normal day. [02:26] And he tells this crazy story. He tells this story that he got abducted. They took him aboard this craft and fixed his body because the beam of light that came out of the ship from whatever, whatever it was, whatever energy source it was, fucked his body up. They repaired it and they communicated with him telepathically while they were on the ship. I forget all the details of it, but. [02:46] This is the film... [02:48] of it

[02:52] But this is supposedly... [02:54] What he said the experience was like. He said it was terrifying. And he described – the thing that's crazy is that they all describe the same exact creatures. They describe these little – Who is they? [03:05] People that get abducted. Oh, yeah. [03:06] People that have had UFO experiences, anybody that's had direct contact. Did you ever see that movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind? I saw that movie The Fourth Kind when I was in middle school. What's that one? Is that an induction one where they come get you? [03:20] Yeah, it's like... [03:21] Man, I only watched it once. It scared the shit out of me. I think... [03:25] People go on their hypnosis and they remember what their abduction was like or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, don't quote me on that. Well, the third kind, I think, is contact. I think the closest kind is the first kind. It's like you see it. I don't know what the second kind is. [03:41] This is like a list of the kinds. [03:43] The fourth kind, derived explanation of J. Allen Hynek's classification of close encounters with aliens. The fourth kind denotes alien abductions. Dun, dun, dun. Yeah, that one. I like how we talk about aliens like it's like feeling on a girl, like second base. You get to the fourth kind. Get to the fourth base. She takes you home. [04:03] Yeah. But his friends... [04:07] They... [04:08] Like his friends that left him. Yeah. I mean, they saw it. [04:13] Yeah. [04:14] They all have the same story. That has to be real. I don't think you're going to convince these guys. Probably not, but maybe you could. It's like it's not impossible. It's like breathing underwater. That's impossible, right? Okay. Flapping your wings to the top of a cliff, you fly away. That's impossible. Okay.

[04:31] Keeping a lie is possible. [04:33] It's not likely. [04:35] It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. One of the reasons why it doesn't make sense is Travis and one of the guys in the truck had gotten into a fistfight that same day. They didn't like each other. They hated each other. They were workers. They were just coworkers. You know, logging is hard fucking work, man. You're cutting trees and carrying trees, and it's back-breaking, brutal labor, and you get hard men. [04:58] And loggers are bad motherfuckers, man. My friend Evan, his whole family is from loggers. And they're just, he's like, they're the hardest fucking people you've ever met in your life. Just hard men. [05:11] Like doing this shit deep into their 60s and 70s, carrying logs, just just a different breed of human being. So they fucking didn't get along. And they got in a fistfight that day. So why lie for him? Why would you lie for him? Exactly. Why would you lie for him? Yeah. These are hardworking men, Joe Rogan. They don't need to lie. They're savages. Yeah. Hey, did his friends get any money from that movie? Yeah. [05:34] What friends? His friends. That is friends. Yeah. That's a good question. [05:38] That's a good question, right? Because then it would be a reason to lie. Yeah. But the movie was a long time after the actual event. What year was the movie, Jamie? 93? [05:47] 93. And this happened when? In the 70s. In the 70s? Yeah, there's no way. Like, bro, any day now you're getting paid. [05:54] I got D.B. Cooper. Who's the guy that was the actor? [06:00] db sweeney db sweeney that's right db cooper is the guy that stole the money and jumped out the plane db cooper confused yeah you ever heard that story he was he the guy wanted by the fbi yes yeah like a top 10 wanted or something like that yeah yeah he stole a bunch of money and then hijacked an airplane and then jumped out of the airplane with the money

[06:20] And he died? Like, they found the body and everything? Or was it, like, a mysterious, like... It's a mysterious thing. Yeah? Yeah. Oh, shit. [06:27] You never heard that story? Nah. It's an interesting story, but the area the guy skydived into was heavily wooded, and the problem with that is if you're a skydiver and you're in a parachute and you're going to a heavily wooded place, you're going to land in the trees. Yeah, and then you risk like – Yeah. [06:45] getting [06:45] Well, just cutting yourself loose, also cutting yourself loose out of the trees. What if you're 30 feet up? [06:52] How are you getting down? [06:53] Yeah. What if you fall getting down? People go missing in the woods all the time, and no one finds them ever. You don't find nothing. What? Yeah. [07:03] Why don't we hear about this more often? Well, you do if you pay attention. I don't pay attention. [07:09] There's only so many things you can think about. There's a recent update on the Cooper story, but this is just a brief. [07:15] for those who never have heard of it. Okay, D.B. Cooper is the moniker given to the Skyjacker, a dapper, dark-haired man, apparently in his mid-40s, who called himself Dan Cooper. The mystery man passed a flight attendant a note while on a Northwest Orient Airlines flight in Portland, Oregon, bound for Seattle, November 24, 1971. The note claimed that he had a bomb in his briefcase, which he opened to show a large tangle of wires and red sticks. Okay. [07:43] When the Boeing aircraft landed in Seattle, the man who became known as D.B. Cooper freed 36 passengers in exchange for a mountain of cash and four parachutes.

[07:52] The plane took off with several crew members aboard bound for Mexico City on his orders. Wow, so he just made them fly him somewhere with a... [08:00] briefcase with a bomb in it. They were listening to him. So at an altitude of 10,000 feet above Seattle and Reno, he jumped from the back of the jetliner with a parachute and the ransom money vanishing into history. The case remains unsolved despite the manhunt, the FBI tenaciously interviewing hundreds of people in a cottage industry of true crime buffs pouring through the heavens. Nah, I do got a way. Let's talk about Service Titan, the AI for the trades. The trades are [08:30] backbone of this country. And for the first time, they've got technology that actually matches the work. Over 10,000 contractors already use Service Titan software to run their businesses. Built by two guys whose dads were in the trades, this isn't some tech company guessing at solutions. Now Service Titan is building an AI trained on real trades workflows, not generic internet data. [09:00] plumbing, electrical, and more. It's booking calls while you sleep, dispatching your texts, helping you run your back office, growing your revenue. One platform, fully automated, always learning, always improving. Every other industry is still trying to figure out AI. The trades are about to lead from the front. Service Titan, the AI for the trades. Learn more at

[09:30] In fact, research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight. [09:38] Isn't that wild and also kind of obvious at the same time? So why is feeding vague scoops of ultra-processed kibble still the status quo for most dog owners? Healthy alternatives exist, and trust me, I know. I buy one, the Farmer's Dog. I use it for both my dogs. They love it. They eat it up quick. It smells good to them. It smells good to me. It's human-grade food. The Farmer's Dog makes fresh food for dogs, and my dogs love it. [10:08] meat and fresh vegetables that are gently cooked to retain vital nutrients. They also portion out the meals to your dog's nutritional needs, which helps avoid overfeeding and makes weight management easier. And isn't getting more time with our four-legged best friends something every dog owner wants? The answer to that is... [10:27] is yes, obviously. So try the farmer's dog today and get 50% off your first box of fresh, healthy food. [10:36] Plus, get free shipping. Just go to thefarmersdog.com slash rogan. This offer is for new customers only. [10:45] This summer, the Cup is taking over the U.S., and only DraftKings has you covered every step of the way. Follow every group stage upset, every knockout round thriller, every stoppage time moment that flips the whole tournament. Sweat all the big matches you love in real time with a seamless experience built for the world's biggest stage. No matter where you're watching, you're always connected and in the game with one app.

[11:15] up with code rogan spend five bucks to get 200 in rewards within 21 days that's code rogan in partnership with draft kings the crown is yours if you or someone you know has a gambling problem crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER 21 and over illinois only eligibility restrictions apply bonus bets expire seven days after issuance for additional terms and responsible gaming resources cdkng.co slash audio limited time offer [11:43] There's no way that he thought all of this out and then was like, ah, once I get in the air, I'll just wing it. The man knew he was going to jump over those woods. He knew that the minute he landed in Mexico, they'd have some sort of dog day afternoon. Right, but he wasn't in Mexico. He jumped outside of Portland, right? Yeah. It was in the Pacific Northwest that he jumped, right? Yeah, they just took off, and 20 minutes in, he's like, all right, I'm out. Yeah. [12:13] Their plan is to go to Mexico. Go to Mexico. Right. Right? He thinks he's going to land safely, and then they're going to figure out a way to... Yeah, but... [12:20] The thing is, have you ever been in the Pacific Northwest? You ever been in the woods up there? Not in the woods, but I've seen them from the highway. Tall-ass trees. Okay, yeah, tall-ass trees and real dense like this, like a box of Q-tips. That's how I always describe the trees up there. They're really close to each other. There's not a lot of open space up there at all. It's all just trees. So if you're landing into that mess... [12:44] You're not going to find a spot to land.

[12:46] And then here's the other problem. If you do find a spot to land... [12:49] Where are you? [12:50] Do you know where you are? Do you know how to get out of there? I think that dude... You could walk for days in any direction and not find shit. Nah, I think he planned that part. I don't think he did. I bet he was on meth. For real. Probably. That sounds more like it. I bet he was... That's a meth move. The whole thing's a meth move. I'm gonna get a fucking bomb. I'm gonna get on the plane. I'm gonna tell them I got a fucking bomb. I want some money. And I want some fucking parachutes. And I'm gonna get the money. And I'm just gonna parachute to safety. It sounds like a terrible idea. You think so? I mean, I think... [13:17] For a second there, if the guy was sober, I think he's genius. I think he's a sober genius. You think he's just a method. Yeah, I think he's a method. I think he studied the woods for months. [13:32] No way. Because how are you going to know? You're going... [13:35] 10,000 feet above the earth, you're going 500 miles an hour. [13:39] And you're going to jump. So... [13:41] I want you to imagine that. So here is this. You're going 500 miles an hour, and then you jump. [13:47] Where are you going to land? [13:49] You go in 500 miles an hour. You have to fall 10,000 feet. [13:53] Where the fuck are you going to land? You have no idea where you're going to land. You should make tests. [13:58] Like you should be in charge of creating the SATs. It's like question number eight. Where the fuck are you going to land? Well, here's the thing. Back then, there was no GPS. [14:07] Okay? So back then, all you had is a compass. [14:11] So even if you have a map, like how big is your map? People were smarter back then, though. No, they weren't. Trust me. I used to live back then. I feel like people had to...

[14:21] Like... [14:21] I feel like... [14:23] the further back you go in time, maybe not too far back, right? But I feel like... [14:28] 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, people were forced... [14:33] to like. [14:34] Learn maps, learn their directions, learn how to utilize a compass. [14:39] People were better on their feet. You know what I mean? That's true. They definitely knew more phone numbers. They definitely knew how to get around more. [14:46] Without any sort of GPS. I'm addicted to GPS. That shit runs my life. If I want to go somewhere, I always put it in my phone. It gives you traffic updates. That too. Yeah, that's huge. Oh, detour. Fuck you people. Ha ha. And you feel happy. Look, I got to run that traffic. Back in the day, you just had to memorize routes, memorize which routes were busy at which times. [15:08] And you had to listen to AM radio for the traffic update. [15:10] The traffic update brought to you by Costco. Hey, who's that one guy that comes on? I don't know if he still does. He, like... [15:18] what's the story with him he got like really rich [15:21] and he gives people financial advice. Is it Ramsey? No. Yeah. [15:25] Dave Ramsey? Dave Ramsey? Yeah. Do you know him? No. Oh. [15:28] I thought you knew him. [15:31] Back to D.V. Cooper. I think that dude was on meth. I think that's a total meth head plan. [15:38] I got a fucking bomb. He's got a bunch of red sticks with wires. Blow it up, bitch. You don't know how to. What is that? What's in that bag? [15:48] I think he's a pure method. That's what I think.

[15:51] A crazy wild dude. They say Hitler was on meth too. [15:56] Yes. [15:57] Yeah, most likely. He was definitely on oxycodone and the actual Nazis were definitely on meth. [16:04] For sure. They gave Nazis myth? Oh, yeah, man. There's a great book. Is it out there? It's in the other room, yeah. It's in the other room. It's called Blitzed by... [16:14] How do you pronounce his name? Orr. Orr. [16:19] Norman Orr. [16:21] Oler, right? Norman Oler. Great guest, too. He was amazing. But he wrote this book about all the meth they took during World War II. [16:32] It's all about the most math that came to the people in the text. Wait, so he was a Nazi that wrote a book? No. Oh, he's a researcher. How dare you? I want to read a book by a Nazi. [16:41] Well, you'd have to read like Mein Kampf and you have to read it with like a book cover on so people don't think you're a psycho. [16:45] Well, I mean, we got to know what they were thinking. You know what I mean? People should read it. That's the book. [16:50] That book is great [16:51] Blitzed. So they were all on meth. That's Hitler just all fucked up off meth. Well, Hitler was definitely on oxycodone. He was on a bunch of other shit, and he had a doctor. It's a really good book. You should read it. [17:03] It's very interesting because it lets you – it gives you a totally different insight into why they were behaving the way they behaved. [17:08] Like the kamikazes, for instance. They flew their planes right into the ships. They were on meth. [17:14] What? Yeah, that's why they did it. [17:17] But like what kind of meth? Crystal meth. But like, okay, but like how were they taking it in? Were they just like smoking the pipe and then hopping in the plane? Good question. That you can eat it. First of all, there was pills. And there were actually prescription pills that the government would give out in Germany. Was it called Previtin?

[17:34] Pervitin. [17:36] So this Pervitin stuff was essentially an over-the-counter methamphetamine that you could buy. [17:43] That's how many people are on meth. Although I feel like a lot of the most popular drugs... [17:49] at one point or another are like over-the-counter medication. [17:54] Or like prescribed, right? Oh, yeah, like cough syrup. Everybody's doing promethine. I mean, they still are. Right. But then they had to like ban it. [18:02] Yep. [18:03] Yeah, syrup. For every war and abused drug. What is this, Jamie? It starts off with, I didn't know. [18:09] ISIS uses an ADHD drug? [18:13] ISIS is on Adderall? Captagon? Captagon sounds like a fake drug. That sounds like a drug in a movie. The kids want Captagon. It sounds like it was made by the guy who made adamantium metal. Right, right, right. So it was an early ADHD, a failed ADHD drug. It was banned almost globally in the 1980s, but a few Middle Eastern nations are still producing it. What does it do? A stimulant gives some sort of euphoria and a sense of purpose. [18:39] Let's bring that shit back, Pfizer. Euphoria and sense of purpose. Stop trying to give me some fucking vaccines that I don't need. And how about hooking me up with a little euphoria and a little sense of purpose? [18:50] Little yellow tablets seem to be fueling much of the mayhem in Syria, but illicit drug use is on the battlefield. Is it new? And that's Pervitin. Yeah. So the methamphetamine Pervitin was distributed to soldiers in preparation for the war. And what's interesting about that is they had different doses for different people. Like the dudes in the tank at the very front, they got the most meth. Damn. Of course. Of course.

[19:13] You're going to need you of the craziest job. They're just like – because they would have to stick their heads out the top of the tank, wouldn't they? Yeah. So there it is. Fucking go. Fucking go right now. Fucking turn around. Bye-bye. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up again. Boom. I mean, you imagine what it sounds like when a fucking tank cannon goes off. She says the U.S. military distributed an estimated 200 million amphetamine pills to soldiers during World War II, and Japanese kamikaze pilots in the Pacific used it in their final fateful missions. [19:43] Oh, U.S. military. Our guys run meth, too? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. World War meth. U.S. military distributed an estimated 200 million dollars. [19:54] Amphetamine pills to its soldiers during World War Two. Yeah. Well, this is look, if you have soldiers and they're in combat, you want them to live and succeed. You don't give a shit if they're all they're taking steroids. Good. Give them all the steroids. Give them every fucking thing you can give them. Give them EPO if it helps their endurance. Give them steroids. Give them shit that makes them more aggressive. Give them things that make them more confident. Give them everything. [20:21] Give them beta blockers. Give them whatever the fuck works. They're in combat. That's important. So if you got amphetamine, give that shit up, dog. Do you think anybody was like... [20:31] they stayed addicted or anything oh for sure yeah yeah for sure yeah 100 would it be cruel if i went up to like a world war ii veteran with like a pipe and was like torching at the bottom i don't think they do it that way i think they were taking the pills you know you still like to party old man just crush some of them pills up put it on the table maybe they'll start it i learned i learned a lot when i'm here i feel like a lot of your guests like they have so much to like share with the world but i just come here just ingest

[20:58] Well, I'm ingested too, dog. Child soldiers in Africa... Why couldn't I say that word right? Child soldiers in Africa are commonly given a mixture called brown-brown, which is cocaine and gunpowder. Holy shit. Whoa. This is ingested by inhaling it into the nostrils, a method that rapidly affects the user... [21:19] And it is conducive to addiction. What about the gunpowder makes it better? Also here, as you were saying that too, back to the Civil War, they were used in alcohol. Yeah. American Civil War soldiers were often given alcohol prior to battle as a form of liquid courage and as a means of steadying their nerves. [21:39] Huh. [21:40] Well, wow. Nile Ferguson concluded that World War One could not have been fought without alcohol during World War Two. Amphetamines were used. [21:49] Yeah, amphetamines are better. [21:50] Like if you've got a choice between alcohol and amphetamines, like, bro. I was watching this dude. Man, I forgot his name. He, like, gives these lectures on history. [22:01] David? No, I don't know. Dan Carlin? [22:04] Nah, it's not it. [22:07] Can I pull it on my phone? Yeah, sure. I don't know. I feel like this is like school. What was he doing lectures about? I don't know. I was only watching them because I was like, I better brief up on something to talk about. Because last time I was here, do you know I read the comments on the last time I was here? And people were like, ah, this episode, this dude's not so cool. He's like, he's not interesting. The last guy was better. That was a great episode, the last guy. So I'm like, all right, well, who is he? And that dude was like out here.

[22:37] And I was like, why? Why did y'all put me after that fucking guy? [22:42] And you're on the way here. On the way here, the driver was like, yeah, man. The other day, we drove an Irish comedy writer. [22:52] Ended up getting canceled. And this and this happened. And they took his shows off. But there's all this controversy. And I'm like, now I got to go up against this guy. Like, that guy. You can't think about it that way, man. [23:03] We're just hanging out. We're having fun. People like these shows as much as they like all the other shows sometimes. [23:08] This is part of the show where I talk about AG1, which I've done for years, and usually I like to talk about routine. And don't get me wrong, because routine is super important, and AG1 is exactly the kind of daily, easy routine that can help you feel healthy and help you get the nutrients that your body needs. But even if you love a routine, isn't it nice to switch it up a little? Well, here we go. After 15 years of the original, AG1 has introduced three new flavors, tropical, berry, and citrus. [23:38] no longer one flavor fits all. And honestly, the best part is that's the only thing that's changed. Besides new flavors, we're talking about the same science, the same 75 plus ingredients and the same exact benefits. I partnered with AG1 for so long because they're committed to constantly improving. And now that includes offering three new flavors. Subscribe today and choose tropical citrus, berry, or the classic original variety. If you use my link, you'll also get a free bottle of AGD3K2,

[24:08] an AG1 welcome kit and five AG1 travel packs with your first subscription. Just go to drinkag1.com slash Joe Rogan or head to the link in the description to get started with AG1 and try the new flavors yourself. That's drinkag1.com slash Joe Rogan. Look, this guy's name is Dr. Roy. Yeah. Yeah. [24:31] Casa Grande. [24:32] Okay. And what is his deal? So I was watching this video where he explains like what led to World War II. Oh, interesting. But he spends like 45 minutes – [24:42] talking about [24:43] the hundreds of years before World War I even, and how that kind of came to play. So first he, like, first he explains how World War I came to play, because to understand why World War II happened, you got to understand what caused World War I, you know. And I forgot where I was going with this. Just history. History of war. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, so everything... [25:06] I listened to it, I had to listen to it like three times. [25:09] Because I... [25:10] I kept getting distracted and stuff. But it sounds so like... [25:14] sophisticated and it makes sense if you listen to it all. I'm like, okay, I get why World War I happened now. [25:21] Um... [25:22] But then finding out that everybody was just like drunken on meth the whole time. Just sounds like it sounds like this was such a bro-y idea to go to war. Like it's all the sophistication behind it. But then at the end, they were just like, fuck, let's just get fucked up while we're out there, though. [25:36] But all those old-time English gentlemen, they all wanted to go to war. It was like you wanted to prove your courage in battle. It was a bro-y thing. It was almost like a frat boy thing. Well, everybody wanted to conquer land back then, right, and just rule empires and shit.

[25:55] I feel like we should go back to that. What are you talking about? I feel like stuff is too leisurely now. It's too comfortable. That's true. But we need to teach people that leisurely is not good for you. [26:07] You don't need artificial intelligence. [26:09] You don't need the kind of conflict that's going to ruin cities and kill people. Don't go back to that. That's stupid. We just need to understand how to manage the human body. [26:19] What do you mean manage the body manage your brain and your body? That's the you saying everybody should work out [26:27] My the most minor interpretation But we need to figure out a way to keep people from being aggressive and to keep people from being greedy and keep people from stealing resources and we need to curb some of the worst aspects of human nature and [26:44] And I think the only way to do that is mushrooms. [26:48] Everybody... [26:49] Has like mandatory mushrooms. Mandatory mushrooms. Mandatory mushrooms. Yeah, if I become president. Mandatory mushrooms. Well, Mushroom Day. And afterwards, everybody's just going to hug it out and go, I don't know what I was thinking, man. I'm sorry. It's like an adult vaccine. Yeah. Yeah. A vaccine for human stupidity. But, I mean, that's our problem is that we're managing human behavior, right? We're managing we want to steal resources from this country because they got all the natural gas and this country's got all the minerals. [27:19] to overthrow the government. That's what's most of the problems in the world. It's people being cunts.

[27:26] Hold on, hold on, before I forget this. What do you got? I got rappers. [27:30] You said two things. [27:32] uh, [27:33] Earlier, you said that was the most minor interpretation. Yes. [27:39] And then right now you said... [27:41] She said... [27:43] Cure the stupidity? Human stupidity. The cure for human stupidity? [27:49] Yeah. Cure for human stupidity. Yeah. [27:51] Minor interpretation, the most minor interpretation, that should be the title of my next special. And Cure for Human Stupidity should be the title for your next special. There's no cure, but we need to guide a larger percentage of people in the right direction. [28:08] And that, like, worldwide would... [28:12] That would be the only way we save this. [28:15] this [28:16] experiment of the human race. The only other way is AI. AI is a way that might save us or make us obsolete. [28:23] yo um... [28:25] AI, that's some scary shit. Because I... I don't know if it's real. I saw this video... [28:32] I don't know when it was shot or like... [28:35] how recent or not recent it is because I just, I mean, all I'm watching is just Instagram reels, right? Right. It's a minute. [28:41] At the longest, it's like a minute long. So this could be a minute from some movie from 2002. Okay. Or it could have been recorded. But there's a video, supposedly, that said the godfather of AI warns people about the dangers of AI. But I'm like, why? Like, if that's real, if whoever was, like, behind AI, whatever team it was, is, like...

[29:04] Hey, but be careful with this. It's like, why'd you make it then? Like, I feel like they just did it to jerk themselves off. Like a real Oppenheimer thing where he's like, now I become death destroyer of world war. It's like, why'd you do it then? You know what I mean? [29:17] Well, it's the same kind of thing in that you have to do it because if you don't do it, your enemy is going to do it. If your enemy is going to hold it, the whole world is very different. [29:24] The idea is that if America does it, America, we kind of suck in some ways. We suck with some of the things we do with other countries. We suck with some of the ways we spend our taxes. But we're the best out there. We're the best option. [29:38] Right now, it's the best way to run the world. It's the best way to behave in terms of like your freedoms, having as much freedom as possible. No countries have this combination of freedom of speech, First Amendment, Second Amendment. There's a lot of rights that we have in this country that are just different than the whole rest of the world. I think it's the best way to do it. And we like to think of ourselves as being the most benevolent of all the superpowers. [30:08] dictators. We're trying – like that's why everybody's afraid of Trump being a dictator. We don't want any dictators in this country. So if we develop AI first, we won. That's good. Just like we developed a nuclear bomb. We dropped a couple of them and said, now back the fuck off. We're done here. We don't want to do this anymore. And then we never did it again. [30:28] So that's good. Now, if Germany had developed the atomic bomb first and nuked Britain and nuked America and just went on a nuking spree before we could –

[30:39] ever develop one. Imagine how different the world would be. [30:44] You ever watch those videos, the AI videos of like two celebrities making out? It'll be like Elon Musk kissing like Brad Pitt or Trump. Yeah, I've seen those. I feel like we had to make a couple of those and then tell the world like, all right, now back the fuck off. We did that. Yeah. Do you know how many times they blew up atomic bombs for tests though after that? I'm learning more and more about that recently. I'm reading this new book right now. [31:07] by this guy Richard Dolan. He's a UFO researcher. [31:11] And he's talking about one of the things that they were doing was – [31:14] They were doing – [31:16] altitude detonations. So they were detonating these [31:20] nuclear bombs 150 miles above Earth. [31:23] They did a bunch of them. [31:24] They did it like a bunch of times. And then, doesn't it stay in the air? [31:29] They didn't even know. They were just experimenting and testing. There's a bunch of shit they did that is so wild. You know, like... [31:37] John Wayne did a movie. [31:39] in the Nevada desert near where the test sites were, where they blew up like, I don't know how many hundreds of fucking nuclear bombs out there. They blew up tons of nuclear bombs. And then John Wayne just went out there and... [31:51] The whole cast got cancer. [31:53] The whole cast? The whole cast got cancer. John Wayne died of cancer. Like, a giant percentage of the people that worked on the show, on that movie, got cancer. See where you find the results of that. Imagine being on the team who's, like, sending the nukes into the air, and you just kind of see, like, the clouds stay in the air. Like, I wonder who was the first guy to be like, ah, shit. They didn't even understand, man. No one had been...

[32:16] No one had been subject to large-scale radiation before. It was a new thing. [32:20] Especially from a detonation, it had never happened before. There was no meltdowns yet. There was no Three Mile Island or Fukushima yet. [32:27] uh... [32:28] 1980 article in People Magazine reported that out of the 220 cast and crew members, 91 had contacted cancer. [32:36] Contracted cancer with 46 deaths led to the film being dubbed an RKO radioactive picture. The controversy surrounding the film location and subsequent health issues has been a point of discussion and debate amongst historians and scientists. But yeah, like the amount of bombs that they detonated. Was it a good movie at least? [32:59] I don't think it was. It might have been that Genghis Khan movie. Was it the Genghis Khan movie? Yes. Oh, it was a piece of shit. What is that movie rated on Rotten Tomatoes? It has to be a zero. It's so bad. Oh, man. It's John Wayne playing a Mongolian, which is the craziest thing of all time. It was the ultimate whitewashing. He's doing Mongolian face. And he talks like this. 10% on Rotten Tomatoes. [33:22] This is what you got cancer for, John Wayne. I know. You got cancer for the worst. The Conqueror. And look how hot she is. [33:29] She's like completely European looking, his girlfriend. Like, play some of this because it's so stupid. Yeah. Fall off the horse. Look how hot she is. Woo. She's all impressed by him. And he just took her clothes off.

[33:43] Oh. Tellurgeon, under his heel, the cowering nation. Look how bad this is. [33:50] He took what he wanted when he wanted. [33:53] Four times. [33:54] Beats his fire with ice. Matches his fury with flame. [33:58] Your hatred will kindle into love. [34:01] before that day dawn. [34:04] The vultures will feast it on your heart. [34:08] . [34:09] Oh, shit. [34:11] Bro, I mean, come on. This is the dumbest movie ever, and it gained John Wayne cancer. [34:16] Bro. It's so bad. Like how bad is that movie? Women always talk about how like, um, like I was reading this article where they were trying to trash F1. The movie? Yeah. And they were like, "Oh, dude. [34:30] Another movie where the only woman working... Because, like, the girl in the movie, she's, like, the first... [34:39] what is she, like the team director or something for an F1 team, like first woman and whatever? And she doesn't [34:45] you know [34:46] Like, she doesn't level up until Brad Pitt unlocks her potential. Like, oh, we need a man for that. But it's like... [34:54] Bro, women have the best roles in movies. Not in that movie. I mean, yeah, she got hit pretty hard, but... [35:00] If you think about it, this is a movie about like, oh, Genghis Khan conquering so much, but the best thing he conquered was the woman. Like, really? You know what I mean? [35:09] Like, the woman's always like the main prize of the movie. [35:12] Well, throughout history, that's one of the things that people did go to war for. Women? Yeah, for sure.

[35:18] Nobody went to war for some dude's butt. [35:23] A lot of... I feel like a lot of war could have been prevented then if, like... [35:27] Porn had just came around way sooner. No, because porn's out now and there's still plenty of war. [35:33] That's true. So what are they going to work for now? Resources. All it is is like tricking people, tricking people into doing something for you. Women and resources, man. Women and resources. When are we going to learn? [35:45] It's just money, man. There's enough women and resources for everybody. There's not, though. [35:49] No? There's at least enough women. [35:53] Yeah, but they're not the same. Here's the thing. [35:56] For women... [35:57] I think the number is... [35:59] Women are only attracted to 20% of the men. [36:03] So like 100% of the women out there are only attracted to 20% of the men. [36:08] That kind of makes it fun, you know? You got to hope you're in the 20%. Yeah, but if you're not, you're fucked. If you're not, you just go to war. And there's more of those dudes that are in the 80% now than ever ever. [36:18] in history that we know of, right? Like, isn't there... [36:22] When they do the studies of the amount of people right now currently that are celibate, that are not having any sex at all and not by their own decision. [36:32] Not by their choice. [36:34] I think they're higher now than they've been in a long time. [36:37] People are going celibate? On accident. [36:41] They just know that they're unfuckable. Nobody wants to fuck them. Celibacy. That's real, man. That's like a real problem. A bunch of people are just sitting at home and watching TV all day and ordering DoorDash.

[36:53] I think you got to like split your time up. You know what I mean? I think celibacy could be good for like a week or two. And then you got to be like, all right, no more DoorDash. [37:03] Let's get out there. Just get out there. Stop being a pussy. [37:07] get married or you know [37:09] Getting into relationships, having an affair. [37:12] Don't be just jerking off all day. That's crazy. I actually want to write a self-help book, but not like a real one, maybe like a joke one. But something that... I don't think my stand-up comedy would ever get me canceled, but I think maybe like a book... [37:25] But I want to call it something like [37:28] Like, you're not autistic. You're just 25 and, like, an asshole. [37:31] Or something like that. And then the whole book just tells people, like, get off your ass, man. Like, stop making excuses. What do you do for actual autistic people that read that book, though? They're like, hey. [37:40] He says, I'm not autistic. [37:42] I'm like, you're not autistic then. Believe what you want. How many people do you think are autistic? What percentage? [37:48] I don't know. I feel like probably a lot, but I think there's like... [37:53] There's like people are saying they're autistic so they get like extra credit. Yeah, I think it's like I think it's like being like. [38:00] Like, what do you call it? Like Apache or whatever? Like Cherokee? Where you're just like, oh, yeah, I'm like one-eighth. [38:08] I'm one-eighth autistic. Yeah. I'm kind of psychic. Yeah. [38:11] Yeah, like so I think if you come up on the spectrum, it doesn't run. You're like enough blown. Yeah, like you you've seen people with like full blown autism. Right. And the struggles they have to go through in life. Yeah, somebody has to be in their life. You know what I mean? Like to yeah, for nonverbal people. Yeah. Yeah. Or like just whatever. But

[38:29] You can't, like, be a... [38:33] You can't just like wake up. [38:35] you know play video games go do stuff on your own and then like use autism as an excuse for other stuff you don't want to do like i didn't want to shake that guy's hand because i'm just like autistic like yeah like just look at the person in the face don't look them in the eyes just look them in the face or something just don't be rude like i feel like a lot i feel like a lot of and maybe it's because the way i grew up but like if i tried to use autism as an excuse to get out of doing stuff i think i just would have got smacked in the back of the head i think they would have [39:05] at least. [39:05] I don't think I have any autism in me. [39:07] No? Unfortunately. Why say unfortunately? Maybe it helped with math. [39:12] Help with numbers. [39:13] Jamie? Like Rain Man? I think Jamie's autistic. How does he, maybe not autistic, maybe he just knows how your brain works. How does he know to highlight the exact sentences you should read? [39:26] What's the difference between – because he's smart. What's the difference between – and he's been doing this forever. What's the difference between Asperger's and autism, like the technical difference? [39:35] Thank you. [39:36] Because, like, they're kind of interchangeable, right? Are they both, like, communication type... [39:41] A lot of times people say the spectrum. They call it the spectrum. I'm like, oh, he's on the spectrum. Oh, okay. [39:47] Okay. Where? Like, Spectrum could be anywhere. Like, you could be like, you could have a touch, just a touch of the tism. [39:54] Or you could be like full-blown. I don't know if this is official, but here's an explanation. Key characters. All right.

[40:01] In autism, significant delays in language, maybe nonverbal or of limited speech. Asperger's typically no language delay, advanced vocabulary for age. Interesting. Autism varies widely from intellectual disability to above average intelligence. And then Asperger's usually average to above average intelligence. [40:24] Social interaction difficulties may show less interest in engagement. And then Asperger's desires social interaction but struggles with social cues and nonverbal communication. So it seems like Asperger's is like the upgraded autism. It's like autism is too risky. You could get a kid who's nonverbal, but go with Asperger's, you might get a genius. Everybody wants autism, though. [40:49] Well, I think they really would want Asperger's if you showed it to them. It's like Cialis versus Viagra. Yeah, if they knew. Yeah, if they knew. I think people use autism as like, oh, look, I'm not average. I'm actually… [41:02] High functioning autism. Like I'm actually a genius in this class. Right. Right. [41:08] People definitely use – they love to be a victim of something. They love to have some sort of an ailment that you don't know about. [41:15] People love that. [41:17] I'm not like that. I'm diabetic. I never tell people. Are you full-blown diabetic? Full-blown. Type 1? Not like with the autism thing. Like the food stuff? Yeah, type 1. So you're born with it? [41:29] No. [41:29] I got it when I was like six.

[41:31] Really? Yeah. Type one when you're six. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. [41:35] You know, they just cured type 1 diabetes in a woman with stem cells. [41:40] What? Yeah. It was the first of its kind. Was it China that did this? [41:45] See if you can find it, Jamie. [41:46] But, yeah, they're using stem cells to try to treat all sorts of different things. And one of the things that they were really successful was with this lady. They cured for the first time ever type 1 diabetes. How do they give you the stem cells? Can you smoke it in a pipe? [42:02] No, I think they inject it into you. But it's not too bad. But if this mean you might not have to take insulin. Do you take insulin right now? Yeah, you might not have to take insulin. [42:12] They might be able to fix you. How do I get these stem cells? Let's see what it says. What is the... It says, world's first stem cell therapy reverses diabetes. So where was it from? [42:24] Where did it happen? [42:26] groundbreaking title, in Peking University. They took cells from three people with type 1 diabetes and reverted them to pluripotent state, meaning they could develop into any type of cell. This technique, originally developed by Shinya Yamanaka at Kyoto University nearly 20 years ago, was modified by Deng's team to use small molecules instead of proteins, allowing for better control. [42:56] producing isolates, which were tested for safety in animals. In June of 2023, the team transplanted about 1.5 million isolates into a woman's abdominal muscles, a new approach as most isolate transplants are done in the liver. By placing the cells in the abdomen, they could monitor them with an MRI and remove them if necessary. The operation took less than 30 minutes. Two and a half months after a transplant, the woman with type 1 diabetes started producing enough insulin on her own.

[43:25] And she has continued to do so for over a year. How about that? [43:29] Her blood sugar levels are stable 98% of the time, eliminating dangerous spikes and drops. That's crazy. What? This was in China? I believe so. Yeah. Badass. Yeah. What if I met this doctor and he was like, all right, I'll do the operation on you, but you have to say my name correctly the first time? [43:48] Yamanaka Shimoya? Practice it. I would say practice it if you want to not have diabetes. What kind of question is that? [43:58] They might be able to hook you up. [44:00] All right. What do you think? [44:02] I don't know. How do I like how do you even start that process? You just go to China? Yeah, you got to go to China right now. [44:07] Get out of here. [44:09] I'd get on a plane. I got to finish this press tour. I'll cure diabetes after. I bet it's going to be mainstream within a few years. If that worked and that's... [44:19] reproducible. Dude, I want to go to China now for real. And like, [44:24] It'll probably be in America too. [44:26] Because what they're saying, the way they're laying it out, it sounds like there's a paper on it. And that thing that – was that a published paper? Yeah. It's called VX880-ZIP. [44:40] I guess I should probably wait until they do A few more patience, right? It's like PS5, you want to let the first round go out first With the bugs and stuff Nah, fuck it, I would go right in there Let's go [44:52] Let's see. Let's see if you can fix me. Yeah? Yeah. You don't want to deal with shooting insulin all the time. That's annoying. How often do you have to do it?

[44:58] Ah, before a meal. And I usually eat about three times a day. Oh, so you have to give yourself three injections a day. That's annoying. [45:05] Yeah. And since you were six, you've been doing that? Yeah. Wow. [45:09] Yeah. I'm a little tired of it. Does it... Yeah, this might be it, man. This might be able to fix you. What if I miss the shots, though? Like... [45:18] Here's a trial I think they've done in the US with 12 people. [45:22] Oh, they did a trial with 12 people? 12 participants. [45:31] Endogenous. [45:46] What does that mean? That means a year of follow-up. It was still working. It was still good. Had a reduction in exogenous insulin use, meaning reduction in daily insulin use by 92%. So they still had to take a little bit of insulin sometimes. [46:00] So I bet this is something that you could probably do more than one time. These are all off of one dose. They got one fusion. So if a full dose and then you have a complete reduction in insulin reduction, so it says 83% of them no longer required insulin at month 12. That's nuts. 83% of all the people they tested didn't require insulin a year later. [46:26] That's amazing. [46:28] You've got to get in on that, dawg.

[46:30] Yeah, but I don't even know who to talk to. We'll find out. We'll ask afterwards. All right. [46:35] For real. You should probably find out. Maybe there's another trial they're doing. For real, too? Yeah, I would get involved in that trial. That seems like... [46:42] Totally reasonable. Yeah. [46:45] Unless I would – well, I'd talk to a scientist first. I don't know. I'd like to talk to some people that are concerned about things. Yeah, you always talk to the person who's like against the plan. Yeah, there's always some side effect that you don't take into consideration. Like, oh, well, if you do that, here's the problem. It also does this. You're like, oh, no. [47:02] I don't know. But what if I suck after I'm cured? [47:07] What are you talking about, Ron? What if it just changes me? What are you saying? What if I just don't know how to act afterwards, you know? Well... [47:14] Honestly, living without diabetes, that would go to my head so fast. [47:18] You'd get cocky? Yeah. I'd drop people out of my life. What the fuck I need you for? I'm healthy. [47:25] You'd be... I've heard people say things like that before. Like, if... [47:29] If I fix this, maybe I won't be funny anymore. Or if I fix this, maybe my life won't be good anymore. Nah, obviously I could use something life-changing. I got like writer's block real bad right now. Do you? Yeah. I'm like unmotivated with new stand-up. I was reading that book you got out there. The War of Art? No, no, no. Oh, the Hunter S. Thompson book? Yeah. Yeah. Hunter S. Thompson was a dude or was it a chick? [47:54] You don't know who Hunter S. Thompson is? Nah, but I kind of have heard of Thompson's work through, I read in the...

[48:01] like [48:02] Before the book actually starts, it's like other books by Hunter S. Thompson. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Yeah. And what is it, Rum Diaries or something? So it's a dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that dude's good. [48:18] What did you take before you came here? Nothing. You're on sleeping pills or something? What the fuck is going on? No, man, I'm sober. I just woke up and came here. Yeah, Hunter S. Thompson's a very famous writer from the counterculture movement. [48:32] in that book man that's Johnny Jappy played him in that movie [48:37] Yeah, good old Johnny Depp, man. That's a fun fucking movie. I don't know if you've ever seen it. I've seen most of it. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas? Yeah. It's fucking great. [48:45] It's a great movie. And the book is really great, too. He was a fascinating guy. Probably one of my favorite authors ever. [48:54] That book that's out there, you said it's a first edition. It's like diaries of his, right? He just kind of wrote his thoughts and what he did throughout that day. Charles Bukowski has a book like that. What is it called? The Captain is Out to Lunch? Something like that, right? Yeah. Felipe Esparza put me onto that book. [49:15] podcast uh he has a couple charles bukowski books in his little library and oh no shit yeah shout out to felipe i love that dude yeah dude so talented friends with him forever the captain is out to lunch and the sailors have taken over the ship charles bukowski yeah so it's it's kind of like that hunter s thompson book and uh in both in both of those i like i like both of those books a lot i've read like half of that one i'm gonna buy that one

[49:39] But I like what Hunter and Thompson, he said... [49:43] because he talks about being in his hotel room [49:46] And he says, living on pills, phone calls unmade, people unseen, pages unwritten, money unmade, pressure piling up all around to make some kind of breakthrough and get moving again. Get the gun off the rails, finish something. [50:02] croak this awful habit of not ever getting to the end. [50:05] of anything. [50:06] Yeah. Dude, that's, man. [50:08] Yeah, I feel like I'm there right now. Yeah, but I don't know if I care as much as he did because he at least wrote about it. And I've just kind of been like, I'll get to it. Well, you're a lot younger, first of all. [50:18] And second of all, like, he was already a successful writer that was trying to, like, [50:23] Get the fire stoked, you know. [50:27] That's the thing. This is a great book. [50:29] You can keep this. [50:30] Oh, that's not it. [50:32] Sorry. I thought that was a war of art. We have... [50:36] piles of them. Oh yeah, I saw it out there. Steven Pressfield gave me a whole box of them. I'll give you a copy when we leave. That's a book [50:43] That will help you a lot because it's basically just about that. That book is just about overcoming this resistance that people have to work. [50:52] It's hard. It's hard to make yourself work. It is. Well, I have this thing where like, [50:59] I... [51:00] can't help but to like obsess on a subject and lose a lot of interest in [51:06] in another subject or other subjects but like i like i mean yeah i choose what i like or whatever you know what i mean yeah like to a degree that makes sense so like it's like chasing butterflies

[51:18] Like sometimes it's like that yellow butterfly. Like I just got to keep fucking fucking with this butterfly right here. And there's so many other butterflies around. But then sometimes it's the blue one. So like comedy is like the blue butterfly. And then like other shit is like other butterflies. I started an automotive YouTube channel with my buddy. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's not super big, but it's so fun. [51:38] Yeah. [51:38] And it's just like little challenges that I find in it. [51:41] You know, like, learn this. Learn how to do that. Learn how to do this. And automotive in terms of, like, repairing stuff? Yeah. We put, uh... We got a 1989 240SX. It's my buddy's car. He bought it for, like, 600 bucks. And... [51:55] He wants to put an LS in it, but before putting the LS in it, he wanted to blow up the original motor. So we put nitrous and turbo on it, but without tuning it. [52:04] So there's no computer telling it, like, how to do it safely or, like, efficiently. So it's just like... God. God. [52:12] And we didn't blow up the motor. We blew up the coupler for the turbo, though. [52:16] And the motor sucks now. It won't stay on. So this is a Nissan? Yeah, an 89 Nissan 240. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's a horrible great car. Why did you choose that year? That's my friend's car. Oh, you just had to lay it around? Yeah. Everything we find is pretty much Facebook Marketplace. [52:32] Oh, okay. And so then you're going to drop an LS into that? [52:35] Yeah, yeah. Maybe. Look, that's the channel. There's the channel. [52:39] Oh, nice. Yeah. We chose that name because, like, I feel like Formula One is, like, you know, it's, like, pinnacle of racing. And they have all these such intelligent engineers working on these cars. And they make these great motors and stuff. And I feel like this is the exact opposite. Oh, dude, you're doing some real cars. You LS swapped an R34 GTR? That's more like clickbait.

[52:59] It's just sitting in the car. We didn't, like, hook it up or nothing. We had to take that car to get aligned. Click on that. Click on that. [53:05] Those skylines are legendary cars. This episode is brought to you by Traeger Grills. If you enjoy food, and I mean really good food, Traeger is a game changer. This isn't just a grill. It's the ultimate way to cook outdoors, delivering unbeatable wood-fired flavor thanks to the all-natural hardwood pellets that fuel everything you grill, smoke, or bake. That's it. Just wood and fire and flavor. [53:35] That's how easy it is. Just set the temp, load the grill, and let Traeger handle the rest. Grilled steaks, smoked ribs, even baked pizza, all on one grill. If you're into fire, flavor, and doing things right, check out Traeger Grills. [53:51] This episode is brought to you by Eight Sleep. Okay, when it comes to sleep, [53:55] I've got to have the right temperature dialed in, depending on the time of year that might be ripping hot. I'm talking volcanic or igloo levels of iciness. The point is, I need the temperature to be just right so I can get deep sleep, the kind of sleep that drives real recovery. And luckily, 8 Sleep is all about giving you the best sleep possible. [54:25] regulating the temperature on each side of the bed in real time. Why? So you and your partner can consistently hit your ideal deep restorative sleep range and wake up feeling truly refreshed and recovered. Use my code Rogan at 8sleep.com slash Rogan for up to $350 off the Pod 5 Ultra. The best part is that you get 30 days to try it at home and return it if you don't like it.

[54:55] love your investment in better sleep that's code rogan at eight sleep.com slash rogan legendary oh yeah he got that he got a deal on that car they're hard to get man they they couldn't import them into the united states until like just a few years 25 years after the production [55:13] So there were – people have done shit like that before. I've got – I went down a rabbit hole the other day of Skyline – [55:20] like mods and all the different things that people have done to Skylines. This is just one dude. He has this. [55:25] insane metallic deep purple like a dark purple yeah midnight purple three probably bro it is so beautiful it's like a it's like a big it's like a cardinal sin though to put a ls in a skyline oh right you want to use a japanese engine yeah yeah the rb it's the original skyline motor so that's a that's an r34 gtt so that comes with the rb 25 the gtr which is like the super famous [55:55] So you really know your shit, man. I'm learning. I have an R35. I have a Nismo. [56:00] Oh, yeah. You told me one time, I think. Oh, I love it. One guy tried to sell me one of those, but I couldn't do it. It was out of my price range. I have an R35, too, but not an Ismo. Well, the thing about R35s is you could turn it into exactly what an Ismo is. Yeah. I mean, everything is moddable. Yeah.

[56:30] Zs, the old ones. There's a whole company now that is in the UK that takes Nissan or Datsun. It was back when it was Datsun. Datsun 240s. And turns them into these fucking sick, streamlined sports cars with wider tires, much more horsepower, super lightweight. I'd like to do that. Oh, it's so exciting. I love Japanese sports cars because you get the best of both worlds. [57:00] ability. [57:02] Like, if you get, like, a GT-R, those are, like, one of the most reliable cars you can buy. And it's ridiculously fast. That's my shit right there, son. [57:12] I, uh... That's what I have. Do you ever take it to a track? [57:15] Um, [57:16] I have not taken the GTR to a track. You got an Ismo. You got to take it to a track. I know, but I've only been to a track a few times, and the last time I went... [57:24] It was a Corvette thing. I went with them. We're actually going to build a track, rather a studio on the track. Oh, yeah? That's our next move. Yeah. We're going to build a studio at Coda. So we're going to have two studios. We're going to have a regular studio here, and then we're going to have a studio at the Circuit of the Americas. Let's fucking see. So we're going to be able to take people around the track. [57:46] and then do a podcast right afterwards. [57:49] Hey, hire me as a driver. Can you drive? Are you good? I do okay. I got the fastest lap time at Speed Vegas. You ever been there? Did you really? Yeah. The fastest? Yeah, for like a few hours, and then some dude beat me. Who were you driving? Porsche GT3 RS. Oh, okay. I was competing against my co-host on the channel there, my buddy Luis. It's a username underscore AF on Instagram.

[58:11] Horrible username. But anyway, we both got the same car, the Porsche, to, like, compare lap times. Oh, nice. But I had them beat by, like, [58:19] eight seconds or something like that. Well, he probably doesn't know how to drive it. Also, those cars get a little scary. Yeah. The rear engine. I mean, you have an instructor just telling you what to do. Mm-hmm. But... [58:29] You hit the gas harder. [58:31] Yeah, I broke a little later. Yeah. Get the gas a little harder. I almost spun out, but I wanted to find, like, the limit to the car. [58:38] But yeah, on my second lap, I almost spun the car out, but I was able to... [58:43] keep it [58:44] Thank you. [58:44] Yeah, those cars are just designed entirely for racing. That's a crazy car that you can get, a race car for the street. [58:51] The last time we went to COTA, we went for Corvette. So Corvette has the new ZR1. [58:56] And it holds the record, right? Yes. At what track? Nürburgring. Nürburgring, yeah. It holds the record in basically every single track that it's ever entered into. Holy shit. Yeah, it's a thousand horsepower from the factory. [59:10] And then the record at Nurburgring that they did, which is the record only for American cars, it's for the ZR1X. I believe the time is 6 minutes 49 seconds, which is insanely fast, and it wasn't driven by a professional driver. It was driven by the engineer. Yes, the engineer. [59:31] Broke the American lap time record. So everyone else is using Formula One drivers. They're using the sickest drivers on earth to get the most amount of time. So a professional driver that I follow, this guy, I forget his last name, Misha something or another, on YouTube.

[59:46] He analyzed the footage and he said, you could shave 10 seconds off this. [59:50] Yeah. Which is crazy. Oh, here it goes. Pro driver says Corvette 01 could have gone 10 seconds faster at Nürburgring. Who is it that said that? Is it more than one pro driver said that? No, Misha. This guy. This guy. [1:00:02] This guy's great. I follow his. Oh, I follow him. Yes. What is his channel called? Let's give him a shout out. Young Jamie. [1:00:09] 10 seconds in the world of racing, that's like a lot. That's – [1:00:12] That's a lot. So it's Misha, M-I-S-H-A. And the last name, I don't know how to pronounce it, is C-H-R-O-U-D-I-N. Shahrudin? How would you say that? [1:00:25] Shardin. Shardin. Anyway, cool guy. Great channel. [1:00:31] It's dope. So he analyzed it, and he drives that track all the time. He takes people on rides at that track, right? And he's a nasty driver. He drives wicked. It's fun watching. He looks so calm, too, man. He's just hollering ass. Well, he knows that track, like the back of his hand. He's always at the Nurburgring. He does track days on there all the time. So he drives a whole bunch of crazy cars, including GTRs, all kinds of crazy shit, different things that people have put together and modded. [1:01:01] comfortable with the car. He's like a sub six minute and 40 second time, which is what they achieved is relatively easy and possible. He would say, he said, maybe they've already done a lap with a pro driver and will release later when they find it necessary. So what Corvette likes to do, though, they like to...

[1:01:19] do their lap times with the people who built the car because they feel like the people who built the car are like intimately connected. Instead of farming it off to some Formula One psychopath, get the actual guys who designed and engineered the car. And if these guys are breaking records – [1:01:35] They're great drivers. Don't get me wrong. I drove with one of them when we were at Coda. Oh, shit. Yeah, and I drove the car. I drove that ZR1. It's the best car I've ever driven in my life. Yeah? I've driven a lot of cars. Takes corners, badass? It's... [1:01:48] insane. It's insane. It's got the power like an electric car. The acceleration is bananas. It's nuts. It's 0 to 60 in under 2 seconds. It fucking flies. It has massive downforce, huge wheels, sticky tires, and you're going around these corners like you can't believe the amount of grip it has and the stability of it, the balance of it. What kind of tires do they put on those? They're cup tires. I don't know what the exact... I believe they're [1:02:18] I don't want to say. [1:02:19] But I think they're Michelin Cups. [1:02:21] I wish I knew how to like... [1:02:23] fabricate my own suspension for cars. Really? You want to do all that? Yeah, I want to learn. I don't want to make my own suspension. I do want to learn how to fabricate other parts, easier parts, but I feel like [1:02:38] all the cars I buy [1:02:39] That's like the most important thing to me is like handling. [1:02:43] Oh, yeah. I bought a shout out to this dude. [1:02:46] I'm going to shout out his page. He's got some cool stuff on YouTube.

[1:02:51] Krusty... [1:02:52] What is it? Krusty Classics Garage? Let me make sure I'm getting that right. [1:02:57] He sold me a 1973... [1:03:01] Plymouth Barracuda, but it has a front end from a 71 Barracuda. Oh, a nice front end. Yeah. Four headlights. Yeah. That's the front end. That was bad. That's the one. That's the one. I have a 70. He had less swapped it. Look, that's the one. That's the one I bought. [1:03:16] I love that car. That looks like a 70. Oh, that's the original front end. [1:03:20] That's the original front end before they swapped it out. No, no, no. That's the 71 front end. [1:03:25] It looks like, no, that's not. Because it only has one headline on each side. Oh, no, no, no. You're right. I think that's a 73. Yeah, yeah. They wrecked into him. He had to swap it. Oh, I see, I see. Yeah. My mom had a 71 when I was a kid. What? Yeah. Dude, your mom was kicking ass. Yeah, it was pretty dope. Dope car. I learned how to drive on it. That car, he had less swapped it. [1:03:46] And the suspension is pretty tight. [1:03:48] But, uh, [1:03:49] When I got to... It has no speedometer. So when I got it to like what I assume is somewhere over 100... [1:03:54] Yeah. [1:03:55] Yeah, the steering wheel became a little scary. It became a little too sensitive. The front end is so light. [1:04:01] Well, it's also the steering sucks. Their steering was so vague. Well, he has like aftermarket on it. I don't know what all he did to it. I got to take a deeper look into it. I bought it and then just hauled ass back to Dallas. Yeah. And once I got on the highway closer to my house, a Camry was getting cocky. So I was just like, nah, I got to show him this. A Camry? Yeah. A Camry was getting cocky? Oh, that looks great with that 71 front end. That 71 front end is gorgeous.

[1:04:31] My friend Brigham has a 71. It's badass. It's so nice. This dude has everything LS swapped. He has people sending him work from other states even. Really? Yeah, this dude does good work. But he LS swapped into a Barracuda? Ooh. Yeah, no, that's more blasphemy like the thing we did with the Skylines. [1:04:51] You want to see the dopest Barracudi you've ever seen? Yeah, hell yeah. Jamie, pull up mine. [1:04:55] I had one made by Roadster Shop. This is the craziest Barracuda ever. Roadster, they make the frames and shit, right? They make everything. Damn. They did everything. And they put a racing engine in it, a Mercury racing engine in it. Damn. So it's like a 9,000 RPM racing engine. [1:05:11] Holy shit. Oh, it's nasty. It's so crazy. That's it? Yeah. [1:05:18] That's my car. This thing is bonkers. [1:05:22] And it's got a roll cage in it. It's all, like, the interior is gorgeous. [1:05:30] Oh. [1:05:31] But it's six-speed manual transmission. But it sounds like an exotic car. [1:05:39] Oh, yeah. [1:05:45] America! Fuck yeah! [1:05:51] Hey, you got one cup holder? Yeah. Me too. Yeah, fuck everybody else. My interior doesn't look as nice as that one, but... [1:05:58] That's one thing our cougars have in common is the cup holder. Well, the interior is totally different. That thing is sick, bro. You have that. You got a Nismo. You have good taste.

[1:06:09] Yeah, I like stuff. What's your gayest car? The gayest car? Yeah. What's your car that you just like? I guess my Tesla. Your Tesla. Yeah, that one takes the cake. I mean, if you want to ask the average person, but I love it. I drove that today. That thing's awesome. Yeah, that's your daily driver? Yeah, I drive it all the time. It's a Model S Plaid. [1:06:27] And it's also customized. So this company called Unplugged Performance, they take a Model S and then they put carbon fiber fenders on it, wider track, wider tires, upgraded suspension, change the interior. Hey, do you have tinted windows? Yeah. Yeah? Nobody ever recognizes you in traffic? People recognize me. Yeah? They're like, what the fuck? Usually they say hi. Yeah? Like, hey, what's up? You don't get weirdos? I feel like you'd get the most weirdos out of anybody. You get some weirdos, but most people are nice. Yeah. [1:06:57] world. The reason why you can get on the highway and no one's just slamming into each other and the reason why you can go to the mall and everyone's not stampeding over people, it's because most people are nice. Yeah. Most people are cool. Most people are cool until they start running out of women and resources. Right. And sales. Right. [1:07:14] Incels. They get dangerous. They get on the meth. Incels. They get radicalized online. Yeah. Don't do drugs. Take care of your bodies. What are the tires on the Corvette, Jamie? Do we find out what they are? No. They're super sticky. [1:07:27] You drive it. You'll go insane. It's the greatest car ever. Tyres make a big difference, man. Huge difference. But it's also the mid-engine. When they switch the Corvette architecture from that front-engine design from the C7 to the C8...

[1:07:41] Michelin, yeah, there's Pilot Sport 4S. And I think you could use cup tires, too. [1:07:47] I think. [1:07:49] I think it's an option. [1:07:50] Mid-engine cars, they seem to be dominating on tracks, huh? Well, the balance is so good. When you have that balance of the engine in front of the rear wheels, first of all, you have massive amounts of traction because all that weight is back there. There's always a problem with that front engine. The only time I think the front engine can be like a mid-engine thing is if the track has different elevations. [1:08:12] like [1:08:14] Like, what is it, like Laguna Seca, I think, has like a huge downhill uphill thing. Oh, where it helps you to have the front engine buyers? Yeah, I think, I mean, I'd imagine that's the only place it... [1:08:23] probably can make a difference. Because when you're coming... [1:08:27] What is it? Like, man, I think I saw a video on it one time, and I didn't have the volume up because... [1:08:32] My kid was asleep, but I'm pretty sure that's what they were talking about. Like, you know, on the side of the track, they have, like, the... [1:08:38] Like the stripes the red and white and sometimes you go over that you know sometimes yeah, yeah [1:08:43] So if you're going off of one of those... [1:08:46] And you're also going downhill. [1:08:48] I'd imagine you'd want [1:08:50] Like a front... [1:08:53] I think you'd get the grip faster as you're coming down. Whereas if the motor was in the back... [1:08:58] I think you'd have to kind of catch your balance a little more than a front engine. I could be wrong, though. I don't know. The motor's in the middle. See, that's the thing. The motor in the back with the Porsche, you have to learn how to use that pendulum effect as you're driving. But the guys who are really good at it, though, they use it to their effect. Like, they steer with the throttle. So, like, as they're turning, they're hitting the gas. The ass end is kicking out, and then they're modulating it, and then they're going straight. So, guys that are really good at driving Porsches, it's pretty beautiful to watch because they just know how to use that rear engine bias.

[1:09:28] But the thing about the Corvette and also the Cayman, the Cayman GT4, which is another amazing mid-engine car, is that engine in front of the rear wheel in the center of the car makes the car perfectly balanced. You just feel so confident. Even when the tires break, you feel really confident that this car is under control. And the Corvette has so much downforce. It's so well engineered. I mean, these guys gave us, before they let us drive, me and Hinchcliffe went down there. [1:09:58] And before they let us drive, they gave us like this full tour de force explanation of the engineering involved in this car and what the goal was. It's the most ridiculous production car that any American company has ever put out by far. The more you get into cars, the more you get into like physics and balance. Yeah. It starts off as like, oh, shit, like 340 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque. And then later on, you're just like, dude, that thing is so balanced. Yes, balance is everything. [1:10:28] a car. Enjoy a car. [1:10:31] It's not about how fast you go. [1:10:33] This whole lap time thing, it's cool because if you like going on a track, and I do like going on a track, it's fun. And it's fun to have a car that's really good at [1:10:41] moving around track and driving fast. But in the real world, what you want is sensory experiences. That's what you want out of a car. [1:10:50] What do you mean sensory? You want to hear the sound. You want to feel the gears as you're shifting. You want to push the clutch in and pop that sucker in a third and let off the clutch as you hit the gas. You want to smell it. You want to feel it. You want to – really, you want a manual transmission and a manual steering. You don't even want power-assisted steering. So you want a light car like an early 911.

[1:11:20] of driving... [1:11:21] It's a really well-sorted out air-cooled 911. Air-cooled 911. Oh, those old Porsches are so light. You can get them to like 2,000 pounds and they strip things out of them. Those are like stupid expensive now, right? Yeah, they are now. But it depends on which model. You can still get some models like the G-Body models. They're pretty reasonable until people start realizing that and start scooping them up too. But there's some that don't look quite as good, but fuck what it looks like. [1:11:51] out of your head. What you want to just experience the car. Like when you drive, you can get like a 19 – let's find out what a – how much does a 1982 911 cost? Yeah. [1:12:05] Let's see if we can find one. I hate that. I just recently started getting into Porsches, and I hate that I like them now. They're great. They are. But they're so expensive. They're so expensive. They're also good investments. Yeah, they're worth more money after you buy them than they are when you buy them. This is one of the rare cars that will continue. Okay, there's a beautiful one. That one's pretty expensive. Oh, yeah, those are sick. That one's $70,000. That seems like somebody has put some... [1:12:31] They'll probably put some work into that one. [1:12:33] What does it say in terms of what's been done to it? [1:12:36] Oh, my God. It only has 100 miles on it? That's crazy. You know, when I first started making money, I felt like I was buying cars like that, that were more like collector type. [1:12:47] But now my garage is so different because I... [1:12:50] I don't like that. Jimmy, go back to that. I like to fucking put miles on them. Yeah, no, I hear you, but this is nuts. To find an 82 Porsche with that low amount of miles?

[1:13:00] That's crazy. 100 miles? I would LS it. I would Biden LS it. [1:13:08] Uh... [1:13:08] Hey, look, I got one of those, but not that year. Go back up. [1:13:11] yeah skyline right there oh yeah yeah i got a different one though i got a what one do you have i have a 1971 oh really yeah it's an original but that that car that's one of those cars that i'm like i don't know if i should keep it or not because it's it's so valuable as long as i don't fuck with it too much oh it's an investment if i if i had that car if i was you i just keep that sucker well maintained don't drive it anywhere hold on to it enjoy it that'll be worth a million dollars someday [1:13:38] I don't know. I think I'm going to L.S. it. [1:13:40] does it have the original engine the original engine yep oh man i wouldn't fuck with it if it was you it still smells like the japanese dude who used to drive it to work this is crazy that this car only has 100 miles on it so that car is not going to be fast in comparison to a modern car but boy will you enjoy driving it that is an enjoyable car [1:14:02] You drive that car. You feel everything. It's like you're in a ride. I don't know what year they started doing this, but they have a... Oh, it says 8,000 miles on it. 90,000. [1:14:13] 100 miles on the new engine, maybe. No, no, no. 8,475, Jamie. [1:14:20] Right? Is that... [1:14:22] Is that the last one? Is that up to the next mile? When that goes over to zero, does that make a six? Usually it's a different number or a different color or something.

[1:14:30] Oscar's tracked up to 100,000, right? Yeah, maybe not. Maybe it's 9,000. [1:14:36] Like, does it go 6, 7, 8, 9, 60? Does it do that? I don't know. I don't know. Hey, that's still not bad. What do you use? 82? [1:14:45] So either way, yeah, if it's an 82, but that doesn't make any sense. Oh, I think they're saying it has 100 miles on a rebuilt engine. Let's see what it says. Yeah, I think it's fully restored. Fully restored. That's it. Okay. No miles. Original engine, trans, fully restored, no miles. Okay, so it only has 100 miles on the engine that's been fully restored. Okay, that makes more sense. So they're lying then. You can't say it has 100 miles because then all the other shit, like the suspension, everything else has got all those miles on it. [1:15:15] you [1:15:15] Unless you swapped out every fucking component in the car. This episode is brought to you by Dodge. The new Dodge Charger scat pack is built for people who still believe driving should be exciting. You want to talk about performance? Let's start with a twin-turbo six-pack gas engine. All gas, no mercy, 550 horsepower, 0 to 60 in just 3.9 seconds, [1:15:45] Woo! Unlike vehicles that make you choose between traction and attitude, the Dodge Charger Scat Pack comes with standard all-wheel drive and a selectable rear-wheel drive mode so you can get confident handling when you want it and the freedom to still be able to do burnouts.

[1:16:15] Learn more at Dodge.com. Dodge is a registered trademark of FCA US LLC. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Summer means fun and making memories, but it can also feel like you're in survivor mode with packed schedules, keeping the kids entertained, and chaotic routines. That's not so fun. [1:16:45] a space to recharge. It can help make your summer more balanced and enjoyable. With BetterHelp, you can connect with a licensed therapist online. You'll be matched based on your needs and can switch any time if it's not the right fit. With millions of clients worldwide, people are finding the support they need with BetterHelp. You don't have to say yes to everything this summer. Find [1:17:15] That's better, H-E-L-P dot com. [1:17:18] They have a weird... [1:17:20] the transmission [1:17:22] I don't know what year they started doing this. Oh, the dog leg? Down to one? No, no. Well, the thing, it just feels different. Like, I forgot what it was. My buddy bought one. The guy I run the channel with, Luis. [1:17:34] So this is like the cheapest Porsche ever. [1:17:37] Thank you. [1:17:38] But it looks so good. [1:17:39] He made a whole YouTube thing about it. Like, he made videos on it. He got this Porsche for, like, I think it was, like, $3,200, $3,600 or something on Facebook. The dude was like, yeah, it's an 07 Porsche. He's like, the motor's kaput. It's no good. So my buddy goes to check it out, and it has a knocking in it. And the paint is just real ugly.

[1:17:59] And he buys it. He's like, fuck it. I'm going to just take the chance. Maybe it's a simple fix. And he takes it to our buddy. [1:18:08] Brian back in Fort Worth to get it painted. So now the paint is just brand new, but the motor still knocks and [1:18:14] And my dad pulls up to that same shop that same day to get a truck painted. And he's like, oh, what's up, Luis? And they decide to race the truck. It's an OBS versus a Porsche. [1:18:24] And Luis floors it. And after he floors it, the knocking goes away. Just never came back. [1:18:30] And the motor just runs fine. [1:18:33] So he just came up on, like, the cheapest Porsche. Do you have a video of this? Yeah. Bro, it's all over. Like, can you pull it up on the Formula Bean YouTube again? It has to be on there. That's crazy. Yeah. And the only thing other than that, I think, was, like, the wheel alignment. Or, like, it was, like, shaky or whatever. But I think what he said what it was was the tires had been sitting for so long that they kind of, like, got flat. Oh, they're probably scary. Yeah. You shouldn't just drive on old tires, man. Yeah, we just switched them out. [1:19:00] problem look and that is race a car oh it's a Cayman after the race is stop making the noises let's change the oil and see what we find well there's really two that's after the paint job some fresh gasoline in the car and the race [1:19:16] I mean if I was going to replace the engine, why not just race it? If it blows up, it blows up. But ironically the opposite happened. The old owner warned me that the engine needed to be replaced. And I think you can get a pretty good idea on the health of the engine by doing an oil change.

[1:19:32] One, it looks disgusting, but let's see if we see any metal shavings in there. Taking apart the old filter, I notice a lot of sludge. [1:19:40] But using a magnet, I don't find any metal shavings. All right, let's go magnet fishing. [1:19:45] Next up, let's check the oil. This dude's really smart. He was an engineer for Lockheed Martin. I convinced him to quit his job. [1:19:53] Really yeah, so maybe not that smart if you let me convince them to quit but this sounds more fun. Yeah [1:20:02] I'm thinking some sludge got stuck where it wasn't [1:20:05] supposed to. Maybe it was a lifter tick, and when I finally drove it hard, it blew out the sludge. Or maybe it was something in the clutch. All right, guys, let's see how it runs. [1:20:16] How much did he pay for this? Like 3,600 bucks. Oh, that's insane. That's crazy, right? What a great deal. [1:20:23] And that's a great balanced car, the Caymans. Those are super, super well balanced. It drives really good. That's his daily driver now. Oh, that's dope. That dude only buys cars if they, like, suck. [1:20:33] Like he wouldn't like you won't catch him buying something from a dealership. He's never bought something from a dealership. He has like six cars. Yeah. The dude's fucking crazy smart. So I met him through our other content creator friend. This is a dude named Papika. [1:20:48] fucking hilarious dude even funnier [1:20:50] in real life. Um, [1:20:53] We have the same media manager. So anytime Poppy Cole wants to come to my shows, you know, my manager will just get him tickets. And I'm performing in Dallas one day and Poppy Cole shows up with our other buddy, Ivan, and with this dude. And he's like, hey, these are my buddies. They're also content creators. You know, they met like at a...

[1:21:11] TikTok. [1:21:11] convention or something. I don't know where content creators hang out. [1:21:15] And the first thing he tells me, he's like, hey, man, let's swap your Skyline. I heard you got a Skyline. And those are like his favorite cars, my favorite cars. I was like, fuck, no, I would never do that. And he's like, well, if you ever wanted to do anything, just let me know. [1:21:26] So I told him I had bought an R32 GTR and I wanted to do work to it. But I was like, I want to do it. I want to, I want to learn how to fuck with it. You know what I mean? I was like, can you teach me with her? And I was like, I'll pay you whatever you want to teach me. He's like, all right, well, I'll go over like on such a day. Cause it was a coincidence that we both live in DFW. So he comes over the house one day and we started like, I think the first thing we did was maybe change the exhaust on my skyline. [1:21:54] or maybe it was a suspension of my impala i remember one of those things and i was like well what are you gonna charge me he's like nah man i don't care he's like it's just fun you know make some content from it like never charged we just kept hanging out and now we've done i don't know how many fucking projects together we went ahead and just started the channel together how far in did you get him to quit his job [1:22:12] I think like a year into knowing him. [1:22:15] I tried after like a week of knowing him. But he's like, I don't know, man. He's like, he grew up. [1:22:23] very like [1:22:25] You get a job. You keep your job security. He grew up under that. Most people. Yeah. [1:22:32] You're a comedian. You're like, fuck it. Yeah, I'm like, bro. Burn it down. Change your fucking dreams. Fuck a job. There's so many jobs out there. They're always going to be there. But he said even before being a content creator, he thought that was impossible. He's like, nah, that'll never work.

[1:22:48] And then, you know, just went for it and saw other of his friends. I think like Ivan, our barber buddy, go for it. And it like just started working. I think he made a video. I think during COVID is when he started getting a lot of following. [1:23:01] He made I don't know what he made a video of me. So he just kept at it. But to actually quit his job was the next step. That's great, man. Look, those things are super popular and there's a real market for them. I know because I watch them all the time. [1:23:15] I watch shows all the time online. Do you know about Stance Elements? I don't think so. Okay. This is a great channel you should follow called Stance Elements. This dude is building a Ferrari F40. [1:23:28] building it. So what he did was he bought all the parts that you could buy online for a Ferrari F40. He bought quarter panels, he bought roof panels, he bought front fenders, hood, all that jazz. Yo, Ferrari doesn't like that shit though, right? They hate it. Fuck them. He fabricated the entire frame. He built the frame. He built the interior roll cage. [1:23:53] He made it dope as fuck, man. He made it like – and he's in the middle of this project. This project is probably going to – that's not an F40. That's a 308. That's a – [1:24:02] Very cool car, too, though. So he got an engine from an even more powerful Ferrari. So he got a crate engine that he installed into this thing. [1:24:12] Stephen Scudad, this is like he's just talking about different projects he did. That was his original M5, which is another great car. So look, he fabricated this entire frame.

[1:24:21] They did all this. And they, you know, like he meticulously measured and matched and then TIG welded all this stuff together. [1:24:29] and [1:24:29] This is what he's putting together. He's making this car. So it's going to be like his version of a Ferrari F40. But it's pretty sick. [1:24:39] It's gonna cost him fucking shitloads of money, man. That's so sick though. Oh, yeah, like he's pretty far ahead past this now. That's what it's gonna look like ultimately at the end. [1:24:48] Which is going to be nuts. [1:24:50] Gas Monkey did that too, and I think the story with that was like Ferrari did everything they could to try to stop them from getting parts. Oh, yeah. Something like that. I think he got all the parts before they knew what was going on. Now, for the next guy who wants to do one of these, Ferrari's going to be like... Oh, yeah. If anybody's ordering a bunch of parts like crazy, they're probably going to be like, hold on, this is suspicious. If Ferrari catches you repainting your car like a crazy color, you're fucked. [1:25:14] They'll sue you. Yeah? Yeah, they go crazy. Didn't they go after that designer? What is his name? Philip Plein? Is that his name? [1:25:21] He had like a... [1:25:23] like a green Ferrari, like a crazy metallic green. He must have... [1:25:30] either put a wrap on it or change the paint, but he was doing all this promo stuff with his Ferrari, and they sued him. [1:25:37] bro [1:25:39] Yeah, that's the car. [1:25:40] Ferrari wins legal case against designer Philip Plein use of supercars. But as he says, it's not over. Look at the color on that. So that means he bought it from Ferrari and must have signed something, right? I guess. I agree not to. Look at this. It said he's been ordered to pay Ferrari $352,000 in compensation for Ferrari.

[1:26:02] to the Italian car manufacturer. The case relates to a spring 2018 runway show that Plein held in Milan in June of 2017. During this event, Plein featured a host of exotics, including Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and McLarens. [1:26:15] And Ferrari was none too pleased with this. [1:26:19] They took issue with Plein's social media posts, claiming that by posting photos of his fashion collection with Ferraris, Plein was unlawfully appropriating the goodwill attached to its trademarks to promote his own brand and products. It added that Plein's posts tarnished the reputation of Ferrari. [1:26:38] What reputation? Coked up dudes in Miami? What the fuck are you talking about? What reputation? [1:26:45] That's crazy. [1:26:47] That's a lot of money. He has to pay them $352,000 in compensation and reimburse attorney's fees to the tune of over $29,000. [1:26:57] He has to pay them the attorney fee? Yeah. In order to remove any images from his website and social media platforms that show any Ferrari model. Yeah. [1:27:05] Moreover, the court said that if Pline – am I saying his name right? Pline? Pline? Refuses to delete a post depicting a Ferrari or shares a new one, he will have to pay a fee of 10,000 pounds. Is that pounds or is that euros? [1:27:19] What's that? Euros? For each image or video. [1:27:23] That's crazy. Dude, that sucks. Oh, shortly after the decision was made, he went to Instagram and promptly shared an image of his bright green 812 Superfast claiming that he will appeal the ruling.

[1:27:37] That seems crazy that all he did was show his stuff with Ferraris. Like, what about rappers? [1:27:43] Can they not use a Ferrari if they're doing a music video? Like, if you're a rapper and you bought a dope car and you want to have your dope car in your music video, does Ferrari fucking sue you? Yeah, I'm trying to think back now. Have I even seen, like... How many Ferraris have I seen in music videos? I mean, you always see, like... [1:28:02] Cool cars, Lambo doors, especially old ones. You go back to like old rap videos. [1:28:07] But like an actual Ferrari... [1:28:10] That's a good question. [1:28:12] Dead mouse. Oh, he got in trouble too, right? Because he had a rap on his. [1:28:15] They sued him as well, right? [1:28:18] I got to find me a Ferrari, but not from Ferrari. Like, I got to find it on Facebook Marketplace, like my friend with the Porsche. See, that's what the back of his car. Look at that color. Isn't that a dope color? It is. I love that color. That is the same color. It's a similar color, rather, to what Corvette has. Corvette has a new one called Roswell Green for their ZR1. Looks sick. Sick. [1:28:42] He says Ferrari says he was using the vehicle to add value to his products and elevate his status as a designer. [1:28:49] Okay. On the surface, this seems petty, but a dig a little closer, and you'll find you agree with Ferrari. No, I won't. Don't tell me what I agree with, bitch. The German fashion designer was not only taking pictures with scantily clad women washing the Ferrari – [1:29:03] He had also been known to employ the likes of Chris Brown and Takeshi69 in his fashion shows, two men with a history of perpetrating sexual assault and other unsavory acts. Okay, that's not 100% fair, though, because...

[1:29:19] Did Chris Brown commit sexual assault? I thought it was just domestic violence. [1:29:24] He didn't rate nobody. [1:29:26] I don't think so. I think they're just... [1:29:29] I don't know what happened with Takeshi69 either. I don't know that story at all. I know he's a rat. Um... [1:29:36] So what about the Miami Vice? What does it say? That would be hilarious if the article was like, yeah, and you associate it with a snitch. You know what's crazy is like those are really expensive. [1:29:47] Oh, look at that. The Miami Vice one, a Corvette-based Daytona kit was used. Once Ferrari got wind, it took action. [1:29:54] Oh, interesting. But it says Ferrari was so much more fun in the 1980s, and instead of just asking the producers of the show to take badges off or stop using the vehicle, they asked for the Daytona to be blown up on screen. The moment ended up being one of the most pivotal moments of the series in the great spectacle. The brand was even a good sport about the whole thing and offered the show a real Ferrari Testarossa, the brand's flagship at the time to be used for the remainder of the series. So, yeah, Miami Vice was known for that Testarossa, [1:30:24] drive around in yeah so this ferrari was cool back then they said you're a real car bro i only know about that ferrari because of the wolf of wall street was it the intro he's like no no my ferrari was white like don johnson's on the miami vice yeah i don't like the testarossas i have a friend my friend dana white from the ufc he has a testarossa i think they look like trash the testarossas yeah i just think it's a crappy looking car it's just i'm not interested in it

[1:30:49] I mean, I'm sure it's fun to drive, but for some people, that was their car when they were a kid. That was the car that they wanted. For me, it was always Porsches. Porsches and muscle cars. Those are the cars that I wanted when I was a kid. Those Porsches, like the turbo with the fat ass. Oh, yeah. You go like Google... [1:31:08] 1985 911 Turbo. This was when I was a senior in high school. That was the first thing I liked about the Porsches, the fat asses. [1:31:17] Because you stare at them, like I was saying, you get into balance. When I look at that, I'm like, look at that thing. That thing would never flip over. But then you can go with the BBL version of it, which is that dude in Japan who makes those wide-body ones. [1:31:30] Everybody was flaming him when he was gluing the parts on. Look at that. Sexy. Yeah. 1985 911 Turbo. Look how sexy that is. When I was a kid, that was the car, man. I saw that. There was a dude at a gas station that I worked at. He pulled in with a Porsche. [1:31:47] close I was like holy shit look at this thing it was just like that it was a white one [1:31:53] I'd like to have one of those one day. Yeah. [1:31:56] They're cool. [1:31:57] And again, that car, you'll feel everything. [1:32:01] You feel everything, man. It's like they're so mechanical. You just... [1:32:06] It's just a sensory overload. So it's more fun, even if you're not driving fast. [1:32:12] Like, my Tesla's fun, but one of the reasons why it's fun is because it's preposterous. It goes 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds. It's just silent. It's just silent.

[1:32:21] It's just gone. I don't like the silence. The light turns green. It's gone. It just takes off. [1:32:30] You have more fun in a light car like that going slower. [1:32:34] You don't even have to speed. [1:32:37] It's the feeling of driving, running through the gears. [1:32:41] Ferrari has not sued owners solely for changing the pink color or applying a wrap. However, Ferrari has taken legal action against owners who have significantly altered the car's appearance, especially when it involves modifying or replacing the Ferrari logo or when the car is used in ways to damage the brand's reputation. So that's what Ferrari was saying. I don't know how many times. I mean, it's only been a couple of times. And I won't say who because I don't want to get them in trouble. But I've seen cars, Ferraris. [1:33:11] that have been modified. [1:33:12] And the logo is the horse, but with like a giant boner. [1:33:19] Where have you seen that? I can't tell you now. Why can't you tell me? I don't want them to get sued, man. All right, don't tell me. But, yeah. It's kind of stupid, though, that a car company could think that it could stop you from altering things. Because, like, think about... [1:33:32] Like the GTRs that we were talking about, like a big part of the whole community and the culture is the altering of those cars. Yeah. The big part is the modifying. Yeah. I think that's part of what got them so popular is that they were so easily tunable and easy to modify. It's a big part of it. And the same thing with Porsches. I mean there's so many outlaw Porsches out there where people take Porsches and change all kinds of things on them. And like that gentleman – what is his name again? That does the Raw Welch.

[1:34:01] Porsche's. I don't know his name. He wears the sandals and he's smoking cigarettes all the time. Yeah, that guy's fascinating. Because he does everything by hand. [1:34:09] Yeah. He makes all those wide-body Porsches by hand. There's like a wait list, right, to get him to fuck with your Porsche? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just comes to your shop. He'll travel with fucking cartons of cigarettes. I think he drinks Coca-Cola, just fucking carves it up. I like his style. They're dope. It's a very grandma style, just Coca-Cola and cigarettes. Yeah. I feel like that's shit that my grandma would send me to the store for. Flip-flops. He's just out there smoking cigarettes and working on the car. [1:34:39] But that style of car, that wide body style is like very controversial. Some people think it's gross. Like what have you done to a Porsche? You've cut up one of the great pieces of engineering and design and you've turned it into this fat hooker. That's something that I like didn't. [1:34:56] That's one thing that kept me from liking Porsches for so long was that Porsche owners were very anal about stuff like that. [1:35:02] Yeah. Well, Porsche less. Less Porsche than Ferrari. Like, for Ferrari, it's like, you know, it's a sacrilege to do that. But that does look pretty fucking dope. That looks sick. That looks pretty goddamn dope. And there's giant ass wheels and tires they have on those things. The grip must be sensational. [1:35:21] I love that thing. I would... [1:35:24] I would do that. If I owned a Porsche, I would call that dude. I'd be like, hey, do this stuff, man. Look at that. Look what he did to a... [1:35:31] That's the first or the last of the air-cooled cars, I think. Hey, Luis, we've got to call this dude to work on your Porsche. Is that a 997? That actually might be a 997.

[1:35:39] I think that is a 997. [1:35:40] So that's a water-cooled car. [1:35:43] Look at the wide body on that motherfucker. Ooh, that looks good. [1:35:47] That looks good. [1:35:49] What is his name again, Jamie? Akira Nakai? That's right. [1:35:53] Yeah. [1:35:54] Akira, like the movie. Yeah, so that guy's got a whole cult following. [1:35:59] And they do a lot of LS swaps in those cars, too. [1:36:03] Rutledge Wood had one of those. He had one that was LS swapped. [1:36:07] They owe them. [1:36:09] They put those motors into, like, what is it, the Beetles sometimes too, right? The Volkswagens? Yeah. The old ones? Yeah. Those are sick. You can put an LS into anything. They're bulletproof. Such a good engine. Oh, and I was talking about the Porsche engines. I think they fit in there. Oh, they definitely do that. Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of people have done that. Yeah. They put them in VW buses. I wonder if that makes Porsche people mad. I think the Porsche people are just a little more chill about that stuff. They're not going to sue you. The Ferrari thing is weird because I think that's the only company that does that. [1:36:37] That goes after people for doing stuff to their vehicles. That would be hilarious if like Ford or Chevy started doing that. You can't change your Ford Fiesta like that. This episode is brought to you by Manscaped. Wondering what to get your dad on Father's Day? [1:36:53] The Beard and Dome Bundle from Manscaped is a really solid option. I've been using their Dome Shaver for a while now, and the thing I like about it is how easy it makes everything. You don't have to think about it. It just glides over your head, gets everything clean, no weird patches, no going over the same spot ten times. Honestly, it's so much better than anything.

[1:37:12] any of the other brands I've tried. And then there's the Beard Hedger. It's got this zoom wheel with 20 different length settings that's built right in. So if you want to get your dad something he'll actually use, the Beard and Dome bundle for Manscaped is an easy pick. Get 15% off plus free shipping with the code ROGAN15 at manscaped.com. That's 15% off plus free shipping with [1:37:42] Gold Belly. Gold Belly will ship you the most insane dude foods from all across the country. You got to try the ribs from Terry Black's in Austin, massive, juicy beef ribs that take a day to cook, and you just... [1:37:54] sink your teeth into them, Gold Belly will ship them to you anywhere. [1:37:59] And you've heard me talk about Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles from L.A. Man, now you don't have to sit in L.A. traffic to get some of that chicken. Just order on Gold Belly. So ship Dad something awesome from the most iconic restaurants across the USA. Go to goldbelly.com and get 20% off your first order with the promo code ROGAN. That's goldbelly.com, promo code ROGAN. Bro, you talk about lawsuits. How many fucking lawsuits would they have? I mean, how many people have altered Mustangs? [1:38:29] come on i like the mustangs i feel kind of bad that they got that reputation for always hitting people at car meets and stuff and sliding out of control do they i think it's a fourth thing though what do you mean like uh so like on memes and stuff the mustangs are infamous for like when they do little burnouts or when they just do a little fishtail they end up going out of control and like hitting people on curbs so that's the driver bro they get made fun of a lot

[1:38:59] I think Ford, a lot of their... [1:39:01] cars have delays. No. Yeah. No, no, no. That's not what that's about. But I think, I mean, yeah, it's a driver. That's about people who don't know how to drive. For sure, it's a driver thing, but I think it's partly because... [1:39:11] They're not used to the delay. What delay are you talking about? I think like, and I might be wrong. Maybe it's just me. I have a Mustang, I should just say. I have a new Mustang. But I have a Super Snake. Okay, so I don't know. How new is it? Like brand new? Brand new. All right, so I don't know about brand new, but maybe still. Get in your Mustang. [1:39:30] and floor it [1:39:32] And count how long it takes before it takes off. Or try to time it. It might be like half a second. It might be a second. And count how long it takes for the – like, when you let off the throttle, how long – like, try to feel it, how long it takes for it to actually – the motor to stop receiving the gas. [1:39:51] It's like about a half a second or a second longer than most cars. What? I swear to God. Find out if that's a thing. [1:39:58] It's a delay. I've never heard of that before. Yeah. Especially like... Even in a truck. I was driving a... [1:40:03] F-150. It has a 5.0. It's a single cab. Those things are fucking sick. They're like the best trucks out there right now. [1:40:11] Delay after flying. This is an F-150. [1:40:14] five liter. When I punch it, there seems to be about a two second or less delay on the initial pickup. [1:40:21] That's something wrong with this car. So I don't know if it's only the truck or if it's Porsche. But see about that Mustangs. Try it. Try it out. No. I'm gathering data right now. Mine has no delay. No? Mine has no delay. No. So I was thinking maybe that's why some people slide out of control, though, is because they're not used to the delay. Because, like, in my truck, I don't have that truck anymore, but I'd have to...

[1:40:39] kind of count for like, all right, I'm going to floor it. And then, and then, but also when I take my foot off, like I need to take it off a little earlier than I normally would, depending on what I'm doing. I feel like that your car was not tuned in correctly. I feel like your car, you could probably fix it with a tune, but that's how they come out the factory. Not mine, man. I have a, let's put it to the test. I have a Raptor. [1:40:59] and i also have a mustang and neither one of them has any problems like that their immediate response try it compare them to your other cars pull out the gtr pull out the tesla pull out the pull out the cooler the tesla is very different than all of them because it's instantaneous it's no gears it's one gear and it's fucking preposterously fast but the mustangs don't have that i think it's a bad driver yeah yeah the mustangs are just you know it's like you gotta [1:41:29] Okay. [1:41:30] It's turbocharged. It's a different thing. Okay, the Mustangs are five liters. So it's a V8. It's the Coyote engine. Every car reacts a little different to like when you floor it. Like the reaction time is different. Maybe Ford's is just... [1:41:42] You're just hanging on to this reaction type thing. I don't know, man. Is there anything in there about delay in the throttle on Mustangs? One of the person having a problem with the Mustang that they personally bought. One person. But it might seem like a problem. I don't think it's a thing. I'm collecting data. I'm not trying to hit on Mustangs. I'm trying to collect data. I don't think you're collecting data. I think you're talking about anecdotal experiences from cars that weren't tuned in correctly. I want you to floor that Mustang, your Super Snake, and then tell me what the time was. I just floor that thing all the time.

[1:42:12] normal one. It's Shelby. So Shelby, North America, they take a regular Mustang. I still want the data, Joe. I want you to Florida and give me the data. Yeah. Give me the... Get that... What is it? What do they call them? The Trekkies? Or they... [1:42:26] They track everything for you. It's like an app. Oh, okay. And you put this little thing in your cup holder and you floor it. [1:42:33] 2005-09 poll on a... [1:42:37] thread here, do I have throttle lag? [1:42:39] and some people do. [1:42:41] some lag... [1:42:43] You know? [1:42:44] These are older Mustangs. Yeah, older ones. Yeah, but these are older ones. They're probably out of tune. They probably have bad fuel injection. Something's wrong. Big's coming up with like a... [1:42:55] Yeah [1:42:56] I'm just trying to collect data, all right? Just like you do when you have all these experts come on. You keep saying that like you're a scientist. [1:43:04] I'm not a scientist. I love that you're doing that car channel, though. That's pretty cool. [1:43:09] I love cars, man. I just I love watching people fix them and work on them and modify. It's so fun. I mean it might be like a [1:43:17] 20% of the content that I watch is like car stuff. [1:43:21] I just love it. I love when people are really passionate about something, you know, when they work on things. Whenever I get interested in something, I like to really dig into it and learn about it. It's just so rare when I find something that I'm genuinely interested in. Yeah. But that's the problem I was telling you is that, like, now I'm just hyper-focused on this, and I haven't written a new joke in, like, I don't know how long. Do you sit down and write, or do you try to, like, let ideas come to you? How do you do it? I mean, like, both things.

[1:43:49] Um... [1:43:50] I try to let ideas come to me so I don't force something. But once I have the idea, then I try to like write it out or like, and, um, [1:43:57] I wrote... [1:43:59] Last night and the night before, just because I'm like, bro, I have to write something down just to see if I can, like, squeeze something out. [1:44:06] Lately, like the shows I've been doing, [1:44:09] And it's worked for the most part. Lately, I just kind of go up there with half ideas and then sketch them out on stage. So you're trying to work on new material that way? Yeah. Yeah. That's a great way to work on new material because you put yourself under pressure. Yeah. Yeah. And it feels more like a conversation with the crowd sometimes. Because sometimes I'll just straight up tell the crowd, like... [1:44:29] "Yo, what do you guys wanna talk about?" 'Cause I'm out of ideas. And it might turn into a lot of crowd work, [1:44:34] Which is also fun, too. At least for me. I know some people don't like it. [1:44:38] I don't know. I'm in a weird place creatively with comedy. I feel like anything I try to think of is just not going to be funny. Have you been working too much? [1:44:48] Maybe. [1:44:49] Are you nonstop or do you take weeks off every now and then? I've been pretty nonstop up until now. I was nonstop for a long time. And then one time I decided to take a few weeks off. And I think I wound up taking a month off or I didn't do any sets for a month. It was weird. I'd never done that before. The only other time I did that was I had surgery on my knee. I took two weeks off. [1:45:12] Then I went on stage with Crutches after that. And then during COVID, during COVID, I did new stand-up for a long time. But I found out that when I took a month off, like –

[1:45:21] I had a chance to actually think about what's interesting to me instead of just doing jokes that I thought worked. [1:45:29] So I had no pressure to do a show. I didn't have any shows scheduled. So I said, let me just think about life. Let me think about what's interesting to me. Let me think about what's bothering me. Let me think about what's exciting to me. Let me think about what's possible. Think about things I'm interested in. And just start writing down subjects. So for a full month, I didn't do any performing. I just collected ideas. Okay. [1:45:52] And I didn't think of it in terms of like I'm under the gun. I have to get X amount of ideas. I just thought about it like every day I'm going to spend just a certain amount of time either in front of the computer or looking at my phone just working on ideas, just finding shit that's interesting. And then I had a folder that I'd put all these ideas in, and then I'd sit down and look at these folders like, no, no, maybe that. And then I'll write something about it, just a little bit. [1:46:22] What's weird about it? What bothers me about it? And then go back to it the next day and expand on it. And maybe smoke a little weed and fucking think about it and go, what would life be like if no one figured out the wheel? What would life be like if no one ever invested any time into figuring out antibiotics? [1:46:43] And then you just go on a rant. [1:46:47] Go on a rant. Write things down. And then I write in essay form. So I don't try to write like in joke form. I write about a subject. Like what is about the subject that's interesting to me? I look at it at a bunch of different angles.

[1:47:00] usually... [1:47:01] When I do that, there's like a thing in there that's funny. One thing. [1:47:05] I could just pull that thing out and then figure out how do I deliver that one thing. [1:47:08] Oh, I get you. [1:47:09] Yeah, so instead of just, like, always thinking about, like, what can I talk about on stage, what are the jokes, think about, like, what... [1:47:16] interests you. [1:47:17] And if you feel like you're burnt out, do you have shows scheduled nonstop from now on? Nah. So my next tour starts in September. And some people were kind of upset with me because it's like a seven, eight show tour over like four months. Why are they upset? Because they're like, hey, it's not a tour. It's like a pit stop. Oh, the thing and you're lazy. Yeah. And people are like, why did you come to this city? Why is it like these seven cities? But I'm like, I don't know. It just worked out that way, man. I want fucking time off too, you know? [1:47:47] You've got to not listen to people. Do what you want to do. Don't listen to anybody. [1:47:51] Especially online. I feel like I'm barely getting to that point where I can finally... [1:47:57] not that I'm like, okay, finally I'm here at this point. I feel like [1:48:03] It's like one step at a time. We're like, all right, I can care a little bit less now about this. And I'm like, with time, I can care a little bit less about that or whatever. It's still tough. [1:48:14] also don't [1:48:16] I think that one of the toxic things... [1:48:19] It could be like a double-edged sword. It's like how much people let you do and help you do things. Like if I told my manager right now that I wanted to write a play. [1:48:29] Like the man is going to help me write a play. But I don't know how to write a play. Like I shouldn't be writing plays. And I feel like that's bad. It's how much people let me do things. I think sometime this week and maybe next week, as part of the press tour, I'm going on some Spanish shows. My Spanish is not that great. Like I should not be allowed to be on Spanish TV. How bad is it? It's like if you're –

[1:48:54] uh if your first language is spanish and you hear mine you're just like that guy learned this later on like he learned it as a kid maybe but it's not great you know right it's like i can have a conversation i can communicate with whoever but it's not good enough to be on tv right and i think it's crazy that there's not even like a check like there's no test like i thought at some point they'd interview me and just be like do you know what this means you know how to say this say that [1:49:24] they put in [1:49:25] Because it only backfires. I mean, yeah, it could backfire on my agent, my manager, whatever. It could be like, hey, you vouch for this guy. Sure. But it's going to backfire on me more than anybody. Well, you could always have someone come on that's fluent that could help you. That's true. Like when I had Yoel Romero on the podcast, Joey Diaz translated for Yoel. Yoel's from Cuba. Joey's from Cuba. So Joey would just listen to Yoel and translate. And then occasionally Yoel would say things in English because his English is okay. [1:49:52] Yeah, my game plan is just to be straightforward with it and just be like, look, before we go deeper into this, just know I might fuck up here or there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just say that. [1:50:03] Yeah. But that does happen in the Mexican community, though, right? They get a little mad if you can't speak Spanish. Oh, bro, they hate you. It's crazy. But fuck it. I just think that's just the funny... [1:50:17] kind of double-edged sword about, like, the entertainment industry, though, is, like... [1:50:21] people will [1:50:23] give you the tools to like try...

[1:50:26] whatever you want to do next. - But why do you think that's bad? - Because sometimes, [1:50:32] I think it's bad because you can set yourself up. [1:50:36] for failure, humiliation. [1:50:39] Or success. Or success, true. But that's why it's a double-edged sword. Did you ever watch that movie, Top 5? Chris Rock's movie, Top 5? No. I saw that movie in the theaters when I was like 18 maybe, 17. So he's basically like playing himself. It's about a stand-up comedian who I think he's, if I remember correctly, I think he's getting upset because people don't take him seriously as he directed a movie and acted in a movie, [1:51:06] And he's just like, what the fuck? Why don't people see I'm more than just a comedian, you know? And I think towards the end of the movie, he ends up getting arrested and he's in he's in like the city jail and across from him is DMX. [1:51:21] like as DMX, he's doing a cameo, and DMX is like, "Yeah, I know what you mean, like nobody understands, like I don't always want to rap, I want to sing too." And DMX starts singing some song, but it sounds horrible to DMX's voice. And so the lesson there is like, kind of like know your space. You know what I mean? Like know your lane. Know your lane. Yeah. So I think that's the dangerous part is sometimes you might [1:51:44] lose sight of what your lane is and you can go into what you venture out, which is cool. It's fun, you know, creatively. [1:51:51] But then it's like, hey, you might... [1:51:54] Imagine if somebody gave DMX a tour where he was just singing fucking country songs or something. It would be entertaining, but it wouldn't be great. You know what I mean? Right, but if he could do it, you've got to give him a chance to possibly pull it off. That's true, too. A lot of people have done that. Post Malone's got a whole country tour. That's true. I went to see it. It was great. But that is a very talented man. That's what anybody says. Very talented man. So it's like you have to know how seriously to take yourself, too. Well, sort of.

[1:52:24] think about it. He's like a guy... [1:52:27] He kind of stays... [1:52:28] Stays toasty. Keeps rolling. I don't think he ponders it too much. I think he does what he wants to do. Yeah. But like me, I know myself well enough to know like I'm no Post Malone. Yeah. [1:52:39] I'm not starting a car channel out of like, I'm going to be the next fucking top gear. Yeah, but you're starting it because you're interested in cars, which is a good reason to start it. Yeah, but I also know myself enough to know that like, yeah, I'm just kind of. [1:52:51] I'm keeping it goofy. I'm keeping it light. [1:52:54] Yeah. I'm not... [1:52:55] I'm not necessarily like [1:52:58] I don't know how to explain it too well. I'm just trying to make sure that I don't end up being DMX in that jail cell. You know what I mean? Do you worry about that? Is that something that you worry about? [1:53:09] I mean, sometimes to a degree... [1:53:13] I think I know myself well enough to know like I'm trying to act. I've been doing auditions and stuff. [1:53:18] Thank you. [1:53:19] And I think that like... [1:53:20] I have a pretty good gauge of like if I... [1:53:24] Landed a roll... [1:53:26] And I heard like the feedback on it. [1:53:30] I think I'd know like... [1:53:31] Alright, that's like when it's valid and when it's not. You know what I mean? [1:53:36] But my biggest fear is that like... [1:53:38] What if... [1:53:39] What if I did get such a huge ego that I'm like, oh, these idiots don't know what they're talking about. I'm just so talented. I feel like that's scary. That's a scary part of the entertainment industry. [1:53:50] When you believe the wrong stuff. Or I feel like you shouldn't believe any of it, right? Like they say, the good comments and the bad comments, none of them are true. Well...

[1:54:02] None of them are going to help you. [1:54:03] You should figure out who you are. Yeah. But the thing about what you're saying that rings really true is that a lot of people grossly overestimate what they're capable of doing or how good they're doing something. And a lot of that is if you get famous, then you have a bunch of yes men around you and a bunch of people kissing your ass. And the stuff that you're putting out is – [1:54:23] It's not... [1:54:24] The best it's not what you're capable of you have to know how to like yeah, tell the line between oh like confidence and just like cockiness Most great people that I know kind of hate what they do not not hate what they do and that they don't love it But they they're very self-critical [1:54:39] I think it's one of the ways that allows you to objectively analyze what you're doing. And you have to make this battle. You don't want to kill your own confidence, but you don't want to be overconfident. And you kind of have to be hypercritical about your own work because if you don't, you're never going to get it to where it needs to be. [1:54:56] But then you also have to realize at one point in time you're too close to it to see it the way other people are going to see it. If I'm working on a bit for like three or four months, right, and it's like frustrating and I'm twisting it around, I'm adding to it and subtracting and I'm trying to make it right. Like sometimes you're so close to it that you don't even know that it's funny anymore. [1:55:17] And you don't want to lose that enthusiasm for the bit either. So there's this balancing act for like... [1:55:25] Paying so much attention to it that you hate it, but then falling in love with the idea again before you do it on stage. Treating it as if it was new.

[1:55:35] Treating his education is new. That's hard for people. [1:55:40] That's the dance because the worst thing is seeing a comic on stage that's bored with doing stand-up. Yeah. Oh, my God. [1:55:48] Or seeing people complain before they go up. I can't believe we have to do a second show tonight. What the fuck are you talking about? You could be working in a bakery somewhere in front of a fucking hot oven, sweating your dick off. You could be a logger. Yeah, you could be a logger getting abducted by aliens. You could be doing some terrible fucking job that sucks. Instead, you have literally the greatest job in the world, and you're complaining you have to do it again. You've got to reset your brain. [1:56:14] Reset your approach and treat it like you love it again. For anybody who's been to my shows and has not liked the crowd work, I'm sorry for that. [1:56:24] But I'm having fun with it. And I think the majority of the audience is having fun with it, especially the ones that I'm fucking with. They're like talking to, you know, why do people complain, complain that you're doing crowd work? [1:56:34] I've had a couple messages over the summer. [1:56:36] Where they're just like, hey man, you did a few jokes and then you just were talking to the crowd the whole time. It's like... [1:56:41] But the thing is that it's fun. [1:56:43] and [1:56:44] I don't want to complain about my job. [1:56:46] Because it's either that or... [1:56:48] Or you watch me open mic it or do rehearsed jokes. And it's true. You can tell when a comedian is not enjoying their job. And you hear comedians talk about it. They're like, oh, man, I was doing that joke. And then one day it just stopped working. And it's like, yeah, because people probably can... [1:57:04] tell where you're just not feeling it anymore. Exactly. You're not forcing, you're forcing the joke maybe. Right. And I don't want to go up there and force jokes. Right.

[1:57:12] And I don't want to complain about my job because my job is fun. [1:57:16] Like, I'm beyond blessed to have this fucking job. But it's fun... [1:57:20] I feel like comedy works well. [1:57:23] When you're present in the moment. [1:57:25] Yeah. You know what I mean? If I go up there and I try to force something and I'm just like, nah, like, I'm the same old Ralph from six years ago. Let me do the same old jokes. You know what I mean? Like, people are going to tell. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, like, [1:57:37] Right now, I'm having a lot of, not that I'm going to keep just only doing crowd work, but I would do very minimal crowd work before. Like, I'd go on stage and I might do, like, fucking five minutes tops, whereas now I might do, like, 20, 30 minutes of it. [1:57:52] But if it's fun, it's fun. It's like with the Porsches and the dude who was a Japanese dude who's shaping them up. People might get mad, but if it's cool, it's cool. I feel like comedy is like that, too. If you're having fun, that's what's important, as long as the audience is laughing. If some people aren't enjoying it, well, they won't go to see you again. That, too. [1:58:12] And it's not like I'm going up there and like... [1:58:14] Fucking... [1:58:15] Like I'm having fun But 90% of the audience is like This is horrible Like nah like [1:58:20] I'm pretty... [1:58:21] They're laughing, you know what I mean? I just do feel a little bit of like, damn. Some people don't like crowd work. Some people don't, yeah. Yeah, some people just want to hear jokes. If I have 100 people at my show and like three of them don't like it, though, that does fuck with me. I'm just like, fuck. Those are the ones that are going to comment, too. Yeah. The ones that don't like it are more likely to comment. [1:58:40] I let them down.

[1:58:42] You can't really listen. [1:58:44] You got to know, right? Everyone has to know. And the worst thing is when you don't know, like if you have a bad show and you think it was good. We've all known guys like that, especially in the beginning. They thought they did well. They're like, bro, I'd kill myself if I had that set. That's ridiculous. Yeah. Like you think that was good? It's terrible. [1:58:59] It's just people get delusional. That's a fact. But, you know. [1:59:03] You just got to be able to self-assess. [1:59:06] And if you're self-assessing, you can't read the comments because it's just going to get in your head and it's going to distract you from thinking about new things. The amount of attention that you spend – [1:59:17] paying attention to other people's opinions is attention that you could be spending improving what you're doing. [1:59:22] As long as you're aware of what's good and what's not good. [1:59:25] But sometimes you do get too close to it. Sometimes you need friends to help you out. You know, sometimes you need – that's one of the great things about having a club like The Mothership or The Comedy Store. There's a bunch of comics around. You could say, I got this bit. It's fucking – I'm stuck. I'm stuck with this. And then someone will say, do you still do it when you say this? And you go, no, I don't do that anymore. Like, that was a big part of it, man. You got to say that. I'm like, you think? I thought I could edit that out. Like, no, no, no. That makes it better because it sets it up for later. Like, oh, and then you go out and try it that way. And you're like, oh, shit, he was right. [1:59:55] Yeah. Like sometimes you need your friends around you to tell you like, oh, you know, maybe you're doing that bit. You're doing it a different way than you used to do it. Or what if you added this? Or have you ever thought about it from this perspective? Like imagine the person that's saying that. What are they thinking? They're saying something crazy. What are they thinking? Like, oh, yeah, I never thought of that way. And then you have a whole new element of the bit.

[2:00:16] I was talking with my buddy, Rene Vaca. He's very funny. He's big into crowd work. [2:00:21] But I feel like touring with him helped me work out a few bits. [2:00:24] Oh, yeah? Yeah, because I was like, man, I was worried... [2:00:27] that I'd go out there and like, [2:00:29] not be able to keep up you know you want to be as funny as the funniest person on the show so i was like what if i go out there and like this fucking crowd hates me they'd like this whatever but i was like i'm gonna just do what i do [2:00:40] and [2:00:41] People like him or like on his team who don't see me. [2:00:45] perform every weekend. [2:00:47] are going to talk about the parts of my set that stood out the most. [2:00:50] like the best and the worst. They will. They'll have to. Like you walk off stage, they're going to be like, hey, why'd you say that? Like they're going to make fun of me if I fucking bomb or if I kill, they're going to be like, hey, that was funny. You know what I mean? Right. So I was like, I'm going to just do the fucking set. [2:01:03] And they'll give me notes, like, without me asking. Like, I'm sure they will. And I felt like it worked. Stuff that I was in my head, like, is this working? Is this forced? Like, I don't know. I'd walk off stage and Renee would be like, why the fuck you say that? That was fucking weird. And I'd be like, nah, he's right. He's right. And then it, like, helped shape the bit over months, you know? Yeah, for sure. Having people that you can bounce ideas off is huge. It's huge. And having comics that pay attention to your set and give you notes. I mean, Chris Rock used to hire guys just to watch his set. [2:01:32] He'd hire a team of comics to sit in the back and they do he would do a set at the Comedy Store and then they would meet up and go over the material.

[2:01:40] Yeah, so they would have notes that I'll say, you know, I liked how you did this like tell you did that I felt like this one was like you're a little less animated this time and the last set you're like a little more aggravated about it. I think it made the bit better. You tried that. No, no, no, I haven't done. I mean, I've got definitely got notes from friends before, you know, and which is great. Like when someone will sit back and give you some taglines and shit. That's pretty dope. I love when people do that. But. [2:02:07] What Chris did was pretty intelligent. [2:02:09] Very intelligent. But he got a lot of shit for it because people were like, oh, he hires writers. I'm like, I don't think that's what he's doing. It's not like they're writing his set. He's he's writing his set and then he's bouncing it off some of the best writers. [2:02:24] In comedy. Oh, yeah. [2:02:26] You know, which I think... [2:02:28] I think is a really good way. He used to do it with Richard Jenny when some of his best stuff, if you go back to like his, what I, what I believe is his best specials, his early specials are fucking incredible. And you know, a lot of that was him working with Richard Jenny in that capacity. I like when he did that bit, I think it's like a legendary bit. Uh, Chris Rock, uh, [2:02:47] Bullets should cost five grand. He's like, there'll be no more innocent bystanders. That's fucking hilarious. He's got a lot of great ones. He's got a lot of bangers. You hear one of those bids where you're like, I wish I would have thought of that. Oh, yeah. One of those bids is... [2:03:01] It's one of my favorite all-time jokes. You ever hear Louis C.K. when he talks about, like, he's afraid of new places? Like, that's his biggest fear of hell is that he just won't know how things work down there? No, I've heard of that bit. It's, like, something about, like, he's like, what if you're walking through hell and then, like, some demon comes out of a hallway and he's like,

[2:03:19] He's like, makes you suck his dick. He's like, oh, I suck my dick. Then he's like, how do you even know when a demon comes? Then he comes, like fire ants all over you. And then he leaves, you know, and then like some other demon comes. And he's like, hey, man. He's like, you didn't have to suck that guy's dick. Like, this is hell. He's like, this is just some demon. He's like, you better pace yourself. You're here for eternity, you know? Like, that's a joke. I'm like, bro, I wish I would have thought of that. Like, it's just right there. That sounds like a Louis ZK joke. That was a fucking genius. [2:03:49] That dude's fucking genius. Yeah, he's great. The fucking... He gave me a bunch of great taglines once at the improv. Yeah. Sat and watched my set and had a bunch of fun lines. That's fun to do. I like... Well, Louis did that a lot with Chris as well. He did that with Chris Rock. [2:04:01] They're like in the same class or whatever. [2:04:03] Well, you know, they all were – [2:04:06] doing it together in new york at the same time yeah hey do you ever act like not anymore no no i stopped doing that a while ago i don't like doing it you didn't like it i'm too busy i'm too busy and it's not what i mean i i didn't mind doing it but it's not the butterfly you want to chase no you can't chase all the butterflies no it's like it's too time consuming you know if you're acting you're on set all day long you might work six days a week 15 hours a day it's a lot especially [2:04:36] about that. [2:04:36] I did a commercial for Verizon in Spanish. Oh, yeah? Big thing. Again, they should have checked my Spanish first. That's on them. [2:04:46] Did people complain about your Spanish? No. Dude, you have no idea. They made me talk to a dialect coach because they didn't have a problem with, like,

[2:04:56] Like it wasn't an issue of like, oh, he doesn't know how to say this word or that word. No, it was like, it's fine. It was my accent. [2:05:04] They said I spoke a northern Spanish, which is, I mean, yeah, my family's from, like, the northern part of Mexico. But apparently, I didn't know. Like, I don't know. My Spanish isn't well enough to, like... [2:05:18] depict accents from different parts of Mexico, but I guess [2:05:21] It's the Mexican version of like country. [2:05:24] Oh, it's Southern. Yeah, but over there it's Northern. Yeah. And they don't like that. They said they wanted it to be a more neutral Spanish, that they want me to sound like I'm from like a city, like a big, like Mexico City or some shit. So like I had to... [2:05:38] Read we film like all day right the commercial and there's no talking because the dialogue is all like in my mind. Oh, I see. And so at the end of the day, they had me like record the lines into a microphone. And I'm just like, all right, easy money. So what was the difference in the way you had to pronounce the words? So can you give me an example? [2:05:56] Yeah, like, apparently... [2:06:00] The way I talk, I like... [2:06:02] I had to say the words with no... I had to say them like... How do I explain it? Just straighter. [2:06:09] I don't know, man. Give me an example of the words. [2:06:16] Like, I had to say, like, how do I... [2:06:18] Now that I'm with Verizon and I've got so much money. [2:06:21] But I can't, like... It's like if you took a dude from, like, the fucking country, like Alabama, and you were like, you have to talk, like, if you were just from fucking, I don't know, Northern California. Like, or where is it? Yeah, Northern California is a good one. Right? They don't have, like, a...

[2:06:38] Neutral. Accent, right? It's like a more neutral. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, it's kind of tough. [2:06:43] Well, it's not tough for people in America because you hear all those accents. Well, for me, it was tough because I don't live in Mexico. So I'm like, you want me to talk like people I didn't grow up around? I'm talking like all the people I grew up around. So it was a little foreign to me. You know what I mean? Yeah. [2:06:59] re-record my lines. [2:07:01] back home in Dallas, which wasn't a big deal. I just remember talking to the dialect coach. It's just like, I don't know, say it like this, though. And I'm just like, I feel like I had, [2:07:11] I know people say I talk very monotone, like very laid back, but I feel like I had to do that more in Spanish. Like instead of just saying like, [2:07:19] Hey, ahora que puedes cambiar tu plan con Verizon. I had to be like, ahora cambié tu plan con Verizon. I had to talk like the fucking dude at the end of a commercial who's like, subject may vary to change. Oh, a fast guy. Yeah, so I could do it fast and no accent. So I feel like I couldn't move my mouth a lot. I had to just whisper it out. And that's when they finally liked it. [2:07:40] which I mean, they paid me very well. Like shout out to Verizon. I'm not complaining. I just think it's funny that they were just like, [2:07:47] And they didn't know at first because it's like different types of... [2:07:51] like latinos working on that commercial it was like a puerto rican dude and venezuelan dude you know what i mean and so you took the mexicans to recognize the difference yeah the uh the girl who was like the uh costume designer whatever she was just like hey this dude talks country as hell everybody's like what she was like i better not let him talk like that she was cool as hell i loved her but in my mind i was like motherfuckers that's funny they probably would have released that people would have got mad then i don't think so i think i feel like maybe people from my

[2:08:21] Part of Mexico would have been like, hell yeah, that's us. We feel represented. Right. Like if you had something in America and you had someone talking in a Texas accent, no one would care. [2:08:30] Yeah, it wouldn't. Yeah. You'd just be like, all right, fuck it. Maybe they just know the Mexican market different, though. [2:08:35] Yeah, I guess because they want to make sure they appeal to, like, all sorts of Latinos and, I don't know, maybe... [2:08:42] Maybe a Puerto Rican dude would hear that and be like, what the fuck is this goofy ass dude saying? Have you ever thought about doing shows in all Spanish? [2:08:48] Yeah, I would like to break into that. [2:08:51] Tom Segura's done a bunch of those. Bro, I saw him in Spanish. He was hilarious. I've never seen Tom perform in English. I've only seen his specials or on YouTube. But when I saw him in Spanish live, I was like, bro, this guy's fucking... He's got fluent Spanish. And most people don't know that, which is funny because he's had people talk shit in Spanish around him because he looks like a regular white guy. Yeah. But he's not. He spent his summers in Peru or something like that, right? Yeah. Like growing up. I mean, he's fluent. I mean, he can do shows in Spanish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [2:09:21] German prostitute or something like that. I can't remember the bits. All I remember was thinking, like, man, this dude's, like, fucking doing master kung fu up there. It is master kung fu if you can kill in two different languages. That's pretty wild. Yeah. There's not a lot of humans. It's like tiger style versus fucking crane or whatever. Right. [2:09:38] Like, what percentage of comics can kill in two languages? It's got to be the smallest percent. I mean, there's probably a handful in the whole world. I want to film a special, like, in Japan. But I want to do it, like, just to fucking, like, troll...

[2:09:54] comics like in the States or like [2:09:57] I don't want people to know that it wasn't a real special. It may be just a promo for a special. And it's just me in Japan, but killing it. [2:10:07] in front of a Japanese audience, but I'm not speaking Japanese at all. Like, I'm just doing the same English jokes. And I want to promote it as if I recorded it over, like, a Japanese tour. And just everybody wondered, like, what the fuck? Like, was it English-speaking Japanese people? Well, you just gave it up already, so it's not going to work now. I'll still fuck with the people who don't listen to your podcast. They'll find this recording. They'll go back and find it. [2:10:37] Why is that even interesting to you? Why do you want to do that? I just think it's funnier to fuck with people. [2:10:43] I just think it would make me laugh to watch a trailer for a special where I'm just like... Killing in Japan. Yeah, to people who have no idea what I'm saying. But I want people to wonder, did they know? Was there a translator or something? Well, a lot of people in Japan speak English. [2:10:59] You probably could do shows over there. And there's a lot of expats over there. Like if you wanted to do a show in Japan, you'd probably have a lot of... [2:11:05] expats and British people. Expats? People that left America and live in Japan. There's a lot of those. [2:11:12] It's really cheap to move to Japan. They're actually encouraging people to move to Japan. I saw a YouTube video on that. This dude, I think he moved from LA or somewhere in California. [2:11:21] And for like $110,000, he got like an acre and a half or something like that or more maybe. Well, Japan is experiencing population collapse.

[2:11:30] What? [2:11:30] Yeah. [2:11:31] They're not having kids. [2:11:33] At a replacement rate. [2:11:35] So replacement rate means like if there's two parents, you should have like three or more kids. Like if you're trying to replace the people that are here, when you think about how many people are going to die of old age, how many people are going to die, how many people are going to live, how has the population sustained itself over the course of the next X amount of generations? [2:11:56] Well, you have to have a high replacement rate, and right now Japan has a very low replacement rate. Like it's spooky low. We're at the point where they're in a panic, and they're trying to figure out how to encourage people to move to Japan, how to get people in Japan to have kids. Oh, because there's like – [2:12:14] A lot of insults, though. That's what it is. No, what I'm saying is like they're... [2:12:19] I mean, that's got to be kind of scary because if they're not replacing people, that means... [2:12:24] Fucking jobs won't get replaced. Not just jobs. The country's going to go – there won't be any people left. [2:12:31] What do you mean? I mean, there would just be way less people, but it's not like they're going to all disappear. Well, they'll all die off, and if they don't have kids, that's it. I'm worried about, like, who's going to fucking... [2:12:40] you know farm and take care of the animals and shit yeah well there's going to be less of that too but they're the probably probably the people that will have kids is the farmers and the rural people but what is japan's replacement rate it's very low right james our replacement rate we're all right right we're knocking a little weird too yeah yeah we're we're in a weird situation too i feel like there's a lot of people here their girlfriends already well that's good

[2:13:04] That's nice. [2:13:06] There's a lot of people here, and there's a lot more people aren't having kids than have ever before. [2:13:11] It's different. [2:13:13] We're not in danger, but, like, South Korea is in danger. Like, South Korea, the replacement rate is really bad. Yeah, I think it's something crazy, like how many people that are alive today will have grandchildren. And it's very small. [2:13:27] Fuck, man. Yeah. But you don't think about it that way because you just look at all the people that are there right now. Right? If you're in Japan, you see all this traffic, like, oh, their population is fine. If you go to Korea, look at all the people. But the reality is these are people that are alive now because the baby boomers, then Generation X, and then people are still having kids. But the amount of people that are having kids right now is lower than it's ever been. So how do we fix that? [2:13:53] It's hard because you're going to have to make people attracted to each other and some people just aren't attractive. Some people put no effort into that. Some people are social outcasts and they've lived their life that way. [2:14:04] So Japan's population is shrinking. Here's what it means and what some are doing about it. [2:14:10] So Japan may have the longest national life expectancy, about 85 years, and the world's largest city, Tokyo, but the nation's population has been in decline for 15 years. Last year, more than two people died for every baby born, a net loss of almost a million people. And now the island nation is on pace to shrink in half by this century's end. Diminishing population is Japan's most urgent problem, says Taro Kono, longtime high-ranking minister of Japan's parliament.

[2:14:40] said he intends to seek the highest office again and believes the country should prioritize combating the population decline. [2:14:48] It's a giant issue. [2:14:50] There are less and less number of younger generation. All the burdens are on the young generation, and they won't be able to sustain. So our society is going to be breaking up. Economy is just going to stagnate. Pretty nuts, man. [2:15:02] Japan's military recruited only half the people it needed. [2:15:07] There's a labor shortage in every industry, including the government. [2:15:10] that's true bless you thank you crazy right it's crazy that the the cure to this is just like don't pull out like well not just don't pull out but actually raise your children yeah that too you know and have a bunch [2:15:26] Yeah, that's why Elon has like 19 kids. [2:15:29] He does? He's got a ton of them. [2:15:31] But I think you're supposed to take care of the kids. You're supposed to be around them all the time. How are you going to do that if you have 19? [2:15:37] Yeah, it's like a little village. [2:15:39] That's a lot of people. Kondo says he's one of thousands of Japanese in monogamous romantic relationships with fictional characters. What? That's the guy? What? [2:15:49] I don't know. Who's that? Oh, that's this guy. That guy. That guy's in a... [2:15:53] But yeah, he looks like he needs to be in a romantic relationship. [2:15:56] He married an anime character in a formal ceremony in 2018. [2:16:02] Oh, Christ. [2:16:04] Animes was fucking it up. Look at this dude, man. He's in a monogamous relationship with fictional characters. Almost half of Japan's millennial singles, age 1834, self-report as virgins.

[2:16:18] What the fuck? [2:16:20] compared to barely 20% in the U.S. That's a lot in the U.S. There's 20% 34-year-old virgins. [2:16:26] That's crazy. [2:16:28] Oh, self-reported. [2:16:29] Right. They might be lying. Lying hoes. How many of them are ladies? How many of them are ladies with a body count? Bro, but here's the thing. It's like, fuck, man. This sounds like the plot of a funny movie. It's like, we got to make these guys get laid, you know? Right. But they're not here fucking getting into relationships with anime characters. It's like, do we want that guy to have more kids? You know what I mean? That's a good point. That's a good point. And what girl's going to want to be burdened down with that guy is your provider. [2:16:59] with him, you're not going to be attracted to that guy. You know what Japan should do is they should outsource. [2:17:04] They're doing that too. Yeah? Yeah, they're bringing in a lot of people from other countries. They got to bring in people... [2:17:10] To train these guys [2:17:11] Oh, to train them. Yeah. Like, I got douchey friends who are, like, on dating apps and shit, and they're fucking, they're just sleazy, you know what I mean? They're out here trying to go out on dates, like, every fucking night with girls. Send these guys over there. We pay them a handsome price, and we get them to make their, like, hinge profiles for them and just fucking lie. What is this, Jamie? What are you showing me? [2:17:31] A village in Japan that has a bunch of puppets around. What? [2:17:36] Because of the population decline? Yeah. Oh, God. And it makes you feel like they're surrounded by people. I don't know. Oh, my God. So weird. To combat its loneliness, creating colorful mannequins resembling their loved ones? What?

[2:17:51] That's depressing. [2:17:53] Mimicking the vibrant life of [2:17:56] So they have dolls everywhere mimicking the people because they're in such population decline. There's fucking people in Japan who hate, like, tourism. [2:18:05] Motherfucker, you need me out there. [2:18:08] Mm-hmm. [2:18:08] Yeah. [2:18:09] Well, there's people that were... [2:18:11] the grandchildren, the people that survived the bombs. Oh, wow. [2:18:15] That wasn't me. I was Oppenheimer and a bunch of old white dudes, you know? Yeah, I wasn't there. Yeah. Come on. [2:18:20] My grandpa was in Mexico doing, you know what? [2:18:23] creating two families so that we don't have your problems. There you go. [2:18:28] I have an uncle that my mom found on Facebook when I was in high school. [2:18:33] It's like, you know, one of my grandpas, I know it's like a bad way to put it. And I love my uncle, but he's like one of his bastard children. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I just thought, I don't know. It was always hilarious to me. [2:18:45] That, like, my mom just found this dude and, like, brought him over. And my grandpa was just like, hey, like, how you been? Because my grandpa apparently used to go check up on him from time to time. But it was just so funny to me that my grandpa, like, nothing ever happened. Like, oh, yeah, I didn't tell you guys. Like, those were his vibes, you know what I mean? [2:19:05] We all went to a baseball game together. [2:19:07] Wow how weird was that I didn't think you feel sad for him [2:19:13] Nah, I thought it was cool. [2:19:15] I don't think he like... [2:19:17] needed my grandpa. Like, I think he grew up [2:19:21] with like a father figure, like a stepdad or something. So I don't think it was like, like,

[2:19:25] Oh, my dad. I think he was kind of [2:19:28] I mean, I don't know what all his emotions were. I imagine that's hell beneath. But on the outside, he was just very nice to me. He's cool with my mom. He's cool with my uncle. I think for him, he... [2:19:42] he... [2:19:42] I will say this. For me, he was the first relative that I, on my mom's side, [2:19:48] that I felt like [2:19:49] I really related to. [2:19:52] He's the only one on my mom's side that looks like me, too. Wow. And... [2:19:57] my... [2:19:59] My mom, my uncle, my cousins. [2:20:01] They're all like, [2:20:02] Tough. [2:20:04] Like, I've seen the mob and been questioned by police in handcuffs and they don't break. And, like, even my mom. And I'm sitting there, like, whispering to my mom, like, just snitch, just snitch. Like, say something. And, like, my mom, like, I've seen the, you know... [2:20:17] And like, then I meet my uncle and he has like this kind of like, hey, let's look at the glass half full, like more sensitive type. And I'm like, that's my guy. Like me and this dude, click. He's a teacher. [2:20:33] Yeah, he's such cool people. I just thought it was hilarious that my grandpa never like [2:20:39] I don't know if you apologize to him. [2:20:42] But to my grandpa, it was just like, hey, look what ended up happening. The whole family's together. And it's like, bro, you hid a kid from your other kids for years. These are all grown adults in their 30s now. Wow. And my grandpa even...

[2:20:56] I remember my grandpa tell my uncle, he's like, "Yeah, don't you remember?" [2:21:01] He's like, uh, you were in karate. He's like, I used to go down there and stay with you every now and then. He's like, and you were showing me what you learned in karate. You were like 12 or something. And, uh, [2:21:13] He's just like, no, I don't remember that. But my uncle and my other uncle and my mom are listening to this story. And I imagine in their minds, they're just like... [2:21:21] What the fuck? Like, so that weekend that you were gone for, like, work, like, that's what you were doing? Going to see your other kid's karate in another country? Yeah, but my grandpa, like, he never really talked, like, if he did anything wrong. Which I thought was hilarious. It has to be traumatizing for my... [2:21:35] you know my mom and my uncle and stuff but like people were different back in those days [2:21:40] Yeah. [2:21:41] For sure. When life is harder, people are less sensitive. Right. [2:21:44] Oh, yeah. For sure. [2:21:46] Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you go back to your grandpa's days or my grandpa's days, it's a different world. Plus, you've got to realize those people were dealing with... [2:21:57] That was like... [2:21:58] Like, what year was this? [2:22:00] What, doing when my grandpa was having these kids? It's like 80s. [2:22:04] Yeah, different world. Yeah, for sure. [2:22:07] He told me stories. Like, I think they put my grandpa to work when he was, like, seven. Both my grandparents, like, on both sides. But harder people, man. [2:22:17] Like loggers. [2:22:18] Yeah, like lagers. Yeah. Yeah. [2:22:20] So... [2:22:21] It's all good. [2:22:22] I... [2:22:23] That's why I think we need to go back to maybe not like, you know,

[2:22:27] China [2:22:28] Conquer empires and shit but We need to dial it back a little bit [2:22:32] people need [2:22:33] more pain. [2:22:34] Life is gotten too leisurely. [2:22:36] Yeah. When life gets too leisurely, [2:22:40] You start to... [2:22:41] I think you start to look for like the next little issue. Sure. Issues get smaller and smaller. Exactly. Yeah. Well, we're finding that in this society for sure. Yeah. And people concentrate on a lot of things that aren't really important. [2:22:55] because... [2:22:56] Life's a little easy. [2:22:57] Yeah. Yeah. Nothing wakes people up like a nice attack. [2:23:01] Like after September 11th, let me tell you something, man. This country, you were too young to probably remember it, but... [2:23:06] During September 11, the country was so united. It was so crazy. Everybody in L.A. had American flags on their cars. In L.A.? [2:23:16] In L.A. I mean, I'm talking about like 80% of the cars. You drive down the street for the first couple of weeks, 80% of the cars had American flags on them. It was nuts. Everybody was united. [2:23:25] That um. [2:23:26] That's always kind of crazy to me when I hear people talk about like... [2:23:31] Because I don't go to LA too often, but I hear talk about [2:23:34] I hear people talk about how LA was. [2:23:37] Like the South Park guys, I think in an interview they were saying like to be like punk rock in L.A., you had to say you were like Republican. [2:23:47] Yeah. L.A. trips me out though. [2:23:49] I don't know. I mean, there's stuff that fascinates me about liberals and like Republicans, maybe because I'm not like... [2:23:56] too far on either side or whatever, but it just trips me out that there's like...

[2:24:00] Not that I'm like a huge patriot. [2:24:04] But it does trip me out that like people... [2:24:07] I guess they're not. [2:24:08] Happy here? [2:24:10] Or like not proud of it. [2:24:11] I used to spend my summers in Mexico... [2:24:13] it's like you'll you'll appreciate a lot of american shit like that you know what i mean yeah but i'm not gonna go too far into this well it's what you're talking about before is if your life is too easy you find things to complain about like yeah america's the worst like no [2:24:27] It's not the worst. It's the best. It's just people are fucked. And people in other parts of the world, you give them more power, and you have less control of your own life, and you have less freedom, less ability to express yourself. It's a lot fucking worse. I'm just happy we got all this food, too. Like, we got good food. You ever hear about, like, a menu, like, in some European country? Or, like, I saw a menu for a restaurant, like, in fucking Prague or something like that one time? I'm not saying that. All their food is like that. Really fucking horrible. They look like bland food. [2:24:57] is bad and it's making us fat but at least it's good you know like at least we have the fucking option to get fat [2:25:03] the option [2:25:05] The options are good. [2:25:06] Hell yeah. Yeah. [2:25:07] uh... [2:25:08] Yeah, but if you live in a place where people are poor, you're going to eat bland food. [2:25:12] It's true. Unless they have good spices that aren't expensive. You like Indian food? I love Indian food, yeah. I can't do it. You can't eat spicy? I like spicy. You like spicy Mexican? Yeah. [2:25:22] Yeah, spicy Mexican. Yeah. What's wrong with spicy Indian? What don't you like? I mean, it tasted good. I've only had it like twice, but both times just gave me the runs. My stomach's not built for it. Not built for curry? Uh-uh. I'm not. And like, I don't know. Then again, maybe it was just the people who made it. Both times it was homemade. Oh. So I'm not going to say their names. Yeah, go to a good Indian restaurant.

[2:25:45] See if you agree still. I like sushi a lot. [2:25:47] That's my shit, man. [2:25:49] Well, you want to get the runs, that's a good way to do it, too. Sushi? Sure. Oh, because there's like raw fish and shit? Well, you can get parasites and stuff. I like sushi, too, but there's a reality of... [2:25:58] Eating raw things. [2:26:01] That's why pregnant women aren't supposed to eat sushi. [2:26:03] I fucking, I tried, what do they call it? Snails? What do they call it? Escargot. Bro, I tried that for the first time. That shit's delicious. It's pretty good, right? Yeah. Who would imagine the snails taste so good? [2:26:14] whoever had the balls to try that first snail, like, they were on to something. Bro, they were poor and starving. They probably cooked everything they could. They probably tried everything. That's why people eat crickets. That's why, you know, people are starving. Never tried crickets. They're good. Yeah? Yeah, I've had them in Mexico. Yeah. [2:26:32] Yeah? Yeah. [2:26:33] The foot? Yeah. [2:26:35] They fried them up and served it. I've heard about that. [2:26:39] They had a bowl of them sitting in the hotel when we got in there. I was like, what is this? What part of Mexico did you go to? I think this one was... [2:26:50] I think it was Puerto Vallarta. [2:26:52] I think that's where we were. I think we were Punta Mita. [2:26:57] Um... [2:26:58] But... [2:26:59] There's a lot of people that eat bugs, man. [2:27:01] A lot of people eat fried bugs. [2:27:03] It's nuts, bro. They're actually not bad. They're kind of crunchy. [2:27:07] Yeah? Yeah, not bad. Cicadas, you know when those cicadas hatch? Yeah. People eat cicadas. I've got a lot of those in my garage. [2:27:14] I might try it.

[2:27:16] Try to find a recipe online. Garage door open. Yeah. Shit. [2:27:21] Get those fuckers. Fry them up. [2:27:23] I'm not kidding. My friend Ryan, who was just on the podcast recently, he had a big hatch. Because every X amount of years, they have a bunch of them emerge, and it's crazy. And they were everywhere. And he baked them in the oven, I think, with teriyaki sauce. He said they were delicious. [2:27:40] Do you ever take advantage of the fact... Take advantage of that. [2:27:43] These crickets. Nah, I couldn't eat those. [2:27:47] Are those cicadas too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. [2:27:48] Are those cicadas and crickets or just cicadas? I think it's just cicadas. So they're on a stick. They're on a stick like a shish kebab. Fuck that, dude. Fuck yeah, bro. I changed my mind. I'll get in there. Do you realize, like, and do you ever take advantage of the fact... [2:28:02] that you hold so much power over so many people. [2:28:06] Like, you're Joel Rogan. If you told somebody right now, like, if you eat fucking gum off the floor, it's twice as nutritious as, like, a steak. You can do that once. People will believe you. No. They only believe you if you lie to them once. They'll believe you that time. And then every time after that, they'll never believe you. Have you ever tried to fuck with anybody? No. [2:28:26] Thank you. [2:28:26] With great power comes great responsibility, Ralph Barbosa. If I was you, I'd be lying to people all the fucking time. You probably would. Yeah, you probably would. I'd be like, STDs are a myth. People would just stop using condoms. And then I'd fix Japan's population problem, you know? Well, you just need to send some horny dudes over there. Get things going. They're going to have to do something, though.

[2:28:47] They're importing humans. [2:28:49] They're asking people to move there. [2:28:51] I might move there. [2:28:52] Very beautiful place. Beautiful, safe. [2:28:55] peaceful. [2:28:56] If they say people are real quiet, though, that kind of scares me. Because I'm quiet, but I'm afraid to be the loud guy now. You will definitely be the loud guy in Japan. [2:29:04] Yeah, they're real quiet and they're super orderly. When they walked on the street, they don't bump into each other. They move around each other. Everyone's really polite. Everything's super clean. Like you go through Tokyo, big, beautiful city. Everything's clean. No garbage on the ground. No pollution, I mean, pollution for sure. But I mean, no just garbage, trash. [2:29:25] compact, don't they? In the city, at least. In the city. Well, they do in New York City, too, you know? Yeah, dude. I don't know if I... I stayed in New York for, like, [2:29:32] two, three months. [2:29:34] It's not my jam. [2:29:35] I like it, but... [2:29:37] After that, like two months maybe, I was like, all right, I need to go back to where there's fucking space. Yeah. [2:29:45] Even when I lived in New York, I didn't live in New York City. I couldn't afford it. I had to have a car back then because I was doing road gigs. So I would... [2:29:56] I would have had to get a parking spot at a garage in New York City, so you have to pay. And... [2:30:01] They could be hundreds of dollars back then a month probably now thousands of dollars a month that I just didn't have So in order for me and also the apartments in New York were so much more expensive than where I was I lived in New Rochelle Which is you know a half hour plus outside of New York City? It's just a regular suburban neighborhood, but it was great. I had a little driveway. I could park my car in my driveway. It was golden was perfect and

[2:30:27] My favorite wings are in New York. [2:30:29] on the upper east side [2:30:30] There's a place called International Wing Factory, which I think is a crazy name, International Wing Factory. There's only two tables in there. [2:30:39] You can fit four people in that restaurant. [2:30:41] But the wings, the Nashville hot wings, they're so fucking good. [2:30:45] Well, New York has an insane... [2:30:48] number of great restaurants. That's one good thing about living in New York City. If you're a person who likes to go out to dinner and you live in New York City, you can go to a different place every night of the week for years. [2:30:58] And you have some of the best restaurants on earth. I don't know what the math is on this, but if you have so many good restaurants. There it is. Yeah, that's the spot. Two tables. And they play techno a lot. [2:31:09] Yeah, no, it's a great place to eat. I just don't think it's good for your brain to be surrounded by that many people all the time. [2:31:16] One thing they have, though, that's nice is the park. [2:31:19] Central Park is incredible. [2:31:20] Like if you live in the city, you can actually be in nature. [2:31:24] You say you don't think it's good for there to be a lot of people around you? I don't think stacked up like that on top of each other is normal for people. [2:31:32] I don't think your brain is designed to operate like that. [2:31:35] Just be constantly surrounded by people you don't even know all the time. That's very unusual in human history. Like most people knew everyone around them up until, you know, X amount of thousands of years ago. We're kind of designed to be in tribal environments where we understand what our environment is and who's around us and what's our community. [2:31:54] You know, I have my friend Jim Norton who lives in New York City. He was telling me, he's like, I live in this giant apartment.

[2:32:00] I don't know anybody in it. [2:32:02] He goes, I don't know who my neighbor is. I don't know anybody. [2:32:05] He goes, which is kind of crazy because you think about it, you're in a building, you share a building with – [2:32:11] Hundreds of people. They're in every direction of you. All around you. You don't know any of them. [2:32:16] I just think [2:32:17] it [2:32:18] It takes away a sense of community, which is weird because you would think the more people, the more community. But it doesn't work like that. When you have too many people, I think oftentimes you don't value them because there's too many of them. They become a burden. Less importance. Yeah. They don't mean anything to you. Hey, that must be why they let people just – like I saw this dude one time at the subway laying down – face down on the ground. And everybody just kept walking around them. Yeah, they don't give a fuck. I was like, well, that guy could be dead. [2:32:48] it's just another fucking date to them. Right, if it was a small town in the middle of Oklahoma and a guy was laying down like that and it was a regular guy, you're like, oh my god, you okay, sir? [2:32:58] People that check in on you, they call the police. [2:33:01] Yeah, in the subway, that guy could be dead for – [2:33:03] a day before anybody says anything. Also have to deal with schizophrenics and fucking psychotic people, so when you're going down to the subway, you can't stand close to the edge because people literally push people in front of trains. Hey, hold on. That brings me – I want to ask you something. [2:33:20] Have you ever, because I saw you have like the books on psilocybin. I know you've done a lot of research like on mushrooms. Have you ever read anything about like... [2:33:28] Thank you. [2:33:29] mushrooms

[2:33:31] or other kinds of drugs. [2:33:33] being able to like [2:33:35] um... [2:33:36] like trigger schizophrenia in people, like if it's in their genetics? They think that's the case with marijuana. [2:33:43] especially high-dose pot, maybe edibles. I'm not sure if they think it's more from edibles or more from just smoking it, but, yeah, there's a certain amount of people that it seems like it triggers some kind of schizophrenic break. Like maybe they might have a tendency to have schizophrenia and something, you know, like the real crazy paranoia that you can get if you get really high. Yeah. For some people, that crazy paranoia hits the switch and they don't come back. [2:34:11] I... [2:34:12] I've had... [2:34:13] My last few mushroom trips... [2:34:15] Not with weed, though. [2:34:18] But I'm trying to think if I was smoking and on shrooms. [2:34:21] Thank you. [2:34:23] My last few emotional trips, I started hearing voices. [2:34:27] But I also think it might have been like I was exhausted. Like my brain was just like because I'd be awake all day and then I'd do the mushrooms like at midnight and I'd be awake until like. [2:34:37] the next day basically but [2:34:39] at some point or another in the trip, usually towards the end of the trip, I'd like to hear voices. So it scared me off of mushrooms. I haven't done them in like, I don't know how long. [2:34:48] But I heard him. What were the voices saying? [2:34:52] One of them, I remember arguing with other versions of myself. You were talking to them? I was talking loud. On one of them, it was a really bad trip, though.

[2:35:02] somewhere north of like seven or eight grams. [2:35:05] And that one was bad. I kept blacking out. [2:35:08] Mmm. Um... [2:35:10] But on that trip, [2:35:11] argued with like [2:35:13] Two other voices. Which I'm pretty sure. Were like. Other versions of myself. And. Which was me. Me was me me. Like the balance. Me. [2:35:20] One more balanced one. And then I had like this other one. That was like a very like angry version of myself. Very much like a like like. [2:35:30] Like, shut the fuck up, stop complaining type. And then I had like a very like sensitive little bitch version of myself. I felt like they were all three arguing. Yeah. [2:35:38] And I was just like... [2:35:40] arguing back [2:35:41] Out loud. Out loud. [2:35:44] Was there anybody around you? [2:35:46] No. [2:35:47] That's good. I was in a hotel room by myself. Jeez. [2:35:50] Yeah, I fucked that hotel room up. You took seven grams in a hotel room? [2:35:55] Mm-hmm. Like 90% of my trips have been in hotels. [2:35:58] Why? [2:36:00] I don't know. I have fun. Why don't you go out into the nature? I never tried that. I never tried that. It's way better. I don't know. I don't want to be high in public. Oh, well, that's a good point. I've been to somewhere in Vegas. Go somewhere that's unpopulated. Go to some national forest place. [2:36:20] Do it out in the place where Travis Walton got abducted. Go down that logging road. Take seven grams right at the spot. I wonder if you could find the spot where he got abducted. I wonder if there's a pin, like a Google pin.

[2:36:32] Yeah. I'd go to that. Sniff the ground. I hope I never get abducted by aliens. [2:36:37] Why? [2:36:37] I don't know. They always bring you back. Everybody seems to come back. They don't steal people. No one's going to believe me. [2:36:43] I know a lady whose grandfather was a famous abductee. [2:36:48] like yeah people believe them oh yeah i believe them [2:36:52] I don't know because he was an abductee in the 1950s. [2:36:57] I think it was the 50s. Betty and Barney Hill. [2:37:00] I believe it was the 50s. So Angela Hill is a UFC fighter. [2:37:04] And she didn't even tell me this until after the podcast. Betty and Barney Hill. Aren't they the Flintstones? No, no, no. That's Rubble. Oh. [2:37:19] No, this is a very famous case. So what year was this, Jamie? 1961. 1961. So Betty and Barney Hill were driving. Wait, were they an interracial couple? Yeah. That must have been crazy for the times, huh? Oh, yeah. Crazy for the times. [2:37:34] I was just like, can they catch a fucking break? [2:37:38] So her, their granddaughter, [2:37:41] is Angela. [2:37:43] So Angela, who fights in the UFC. Okay. And I didn't know about it. Well, we did a whole podcast together. I just want to talk to her about her career, fighting career. At the end of the podcast, she's like, oh, my grandfather, I forgot to tell you, was Barney Hill. I was like, what? [2:37:57] Because I know that case. It's a crazy coincidence. I know that case inside and out. It's a crazy case. So they both came back. They went on a trip.

[2:38:06] And then they saw something in the sky. [2:38:09] And then they blacked out and lost time, and they don't know what happened. And they woke up on the side of the road in the car and drove, but they were missing time, like more than an hour, I think it was. And then they started having these crazy nightmares. So they both go to psychiatrists, and the psychiatrist or the psychologist does a hypnotic regression thing. Like, let's try to find out what happened to you. [2:38:39] and [2:38:40] by these beings [2:38:42] And this is in 1961 when this was not something that people talked about. This is like now the problem is that whole UFO abduction, close encounters of the fourth kind. That's become a thing that everybody knows about. Everybody knows UFOs abduct people. But when 1961, when these people told that story, that was a completely novel thing. Nobody had ever heard that before. [2:39:05] And so... [2:39:06] It was a really crazy story, and then other people with similar stories started telling them. What are the experiments that they conduct on them? That's a good question. You don't know because hypnotic regression is weird. So someone could hypnotize you and put thoughts in your head. If they were manipulative, they could put thoughts in your head and memories in your head that didn't exist. Right. [2:39:25] So you could – someone could hypnotize you and if they were very skilled, they could figure out a way to get you to believe that something happened to you, especially something minor, that didn't really happen.

[2:39:39] I could hire a hypnotist. [2:39:44] To put the memory in my head that I hooked up with Margot Robbie and a fucking threesome with Scarlett Johansson. No, that's too outside of science fiction. That's too ridiculous. Nobody would believe that. But you wouldn't even believe that. And then you'd be DMing them and then they'd have restraining orders on you. Hey, girls, let's do that again. That shit was fire. [2:40:06] No, but like, you know, you could... [2:40:10] Maybe someone could put a memory in your head that you got lost at the park when you were a child and you were terrified and then the police found you and they brought you back to your parents. Do you remember that? You're like, no, I don't. You probably blacked it out. Let's try to remember that. And they could put a fucking fake memory. Well, there's already like a… [2:40:30] I don't know. This is like some shit I've saw on another fucking Instagram reel. But don't they say like a lot of our memories, like we change them each time we remember them? Yes. And then your memories become a memory of your recollection of the memory. So it's like one thing that happens to your friends when they want to tell some crazy story about high school or something like that. Over the years, that fucking story morphs and changes and shit gets added to it. [2:41:00] She's running down the street screaming. Her tits are hanging out. And then your friend's like, what? Her tits are hanging out? No, no, no. You never told it like this before. It's like over time, stories change, you know, because the human memory is like.

[2:41:12] I have a very good memory, but it's also not exact. [2:41:16] I don't see it in my head like a film. I could see the most amazing movie. [2:41:24] crazy movie, science fiction movie that I love. It's incredible. And then afterward, I don't remember everything exactly. I can't replay that movie in my head like pressing play. So memory is like scattered. It's abstract. It's a bunch of like weird flashbacks of, oh, yeah, then there was that thing. Oh, yeah, then there was that thing. But they've shown that you can introduce memories into people's heads that aren't real. So this is the problem. With hypnotic regression – [2:41:54] You have to wonder, the people that are involved in writing, there was a book called Abduction by this guy named John Mack, who is a psychologist at Harvard, I believe. And he did a series of these hypnotic regression things with people that have had abductions with aliens. But he's also writing a book about that. So it makes you want to go like, did he want to achieve those results? How did he talk to these people? What was the questions? Did he guide them in that way? [2:42:21] You know? [2:42:22] It's like where they're independent people that they speak to different people. [2:42:27] hypnotic regression therapist that had different results with them? Is it dependent upon how the person is talking to you? Because someone's talking to you while you're in hypnosis. It's not as simple as like you take a pill and then you remember your past. Someone's talking to you. They're asking you specific kinds of questions with a specific tone of

[2:42:46] And maybe it's a man's voice that maybe is like you feel like he's judging you or it's a woman's voice and it's more comforting. Yeah, it's got to be scary to get hypnotized and then – [2:43:00] What if they make me... [2:43:02] talk about a memory. [2:43:05] that I didn't want to bring up. Right. Or what if they put something in your head, like a Manchurian candidate thing, you know, that, that, [2:43:12] The concept... [2:43:13] Manchurian candidate is like you hypnotize someone into – you can bring them into action with like a phone call. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You call, you have been activated. They're like, click. Click. [2:43:24] You say like a phrase and... [2:43:26] And then you go. [2:43:27] And then you go and assassinate the president or whatever it is. Yeah. You know, that's some scary shit. That's scary shit because I don't know how much they can actually do. I know they've definitely done a bunch of experiments to see how much they could talk people into doing certain things, how much they can hypnotize people into certain behaviors, whether or not they can get someone to be an assassin with a phone call. I know this sounds crazy, but I believe, well, I mean, not that I believe it, but I guess I like play with. [2:43:53] theories in my head, but what if... [2:43:55] Thank you. [2:43:56] all the music that gets allowed to be on the radios. [2:44:00] And all the shows that get allowed to be on TV are like, it's like certain patterns in the music or like to the words that they say in the shows. [2:44:12] That brainwashes you to do stuff that we do. Maybe that's what makes us...

[2:44:19] Like go to work and do our 40 hours a week and like respect a 30-minute lunch or something. Like the Rowdy Roddy Piper movie like They Live? [2:44:28] I honestly see that. [2:44:30] It's like that's a bad idea. There's too many variables. Too many people would have to be working in coordination. [2:44:38] Everybody is in on this except for you. [2:44:41] All the people making the music are in on this? [2:44:44] No, but... [2:44:46] Out of all the music that gets made, there's a lot of similarities within music. Right. Because there's only a certain amount of chords. Right. And there's a lot of genres and there's repetitive topics that people choose because they're popular. So I don't think every hit is a hit. [2:45:03] Like... [2:45:04] Like sometimes you hear a song on the radio and you're like, how is he on the radio? It sucks ass. [2:45:09] - Right. - But maybe it hit within those chords. [2:45:14] that like... [2:45:15] Like when you hear a certain chord and it makes your mind go into like a different state, like more relaxed or more of this, right? Well, there's definitely that. Maybe they need our minds to stay in a certain state so they only allow certain music with certain chords or patterns to play on the radio to keep our minds going this direction. No, Ralph. No. See, you would have to have a grand mastermind who's in charge of manipulating everybody all the time. Maybe it's you. To be able to come up with something like that. Like that, I'm on your tail.

[2:45:45] I think I'm onto something here. I think you're definitely not, and you're going to waste your time pursuing this. I know a lot of musicians. None of them are being contracted to make certain frequencies that alter the way you behave. [2:45:56] Mm-hmm. [2:45:57] You think so, Jamie? There's something to what he's saying. I'll be honest with you because there's a video going around. I'll play it for you right now. [2:46:03] I might be the next Terrence Howard. [2:46:08] It's not. I mean, it's similar. So this is Charlie Puth. He's describing what happens after songs are like this is in the mixing process. Okay. [2:46:17] Oh. [2:46:18] inspired and emotional. It's because the song is pitched up with a tape machine. Back in the day, they call this sweetening the audio. Here's what it originally sounded like. [2:46:33] Same thing with this song. [2:46:37] That is sped up, and this is what it originally sounds like. [2:46:48] Charlie, why do people do this? I will tell you, viewer, when you speed music or tones up and down, it's scientifically proven to make you feel different emotionally. This is the tone all music is basically tuned to. But when you pitch it higher, it brings you to the love frequency known as 528 hertz. So when people pitch their music up, it brings the listener closer to that... [2:47:10] feeling. I think music science is really cool. Listen to this song. [2:47:13] Oh, okay. Well, that's interesting, but that's a little bit different. That's just like making you feel good. That is exactly what I was trying to say. Oh, yeah.

[2:47:21] That just makes you feel good. Yeah. There's definitely that, man. Music is like a drug. It's a pretty dope drug. Yeah. [2:47:27] Look, you're proving my point even now. No, but I mean it's an inspirational drug. Yeah, but it does different things to you. [2:47:34] You know, that's one of the reasons why I like to mix my drugs when it comes to music. I like my Spotify playlist. It's all it's all scattered. It's a bunch of different stuff. [2:47:45] Like Nas, and then right after Nas is Leonard Skinner. I'm the same way. But I feel like it's important. [2:47:52] to, uh, [2:47:53] to listen to different types of music, not only because it's cool to like see different people's talent, [2:47:58] Like, from different... Like, I think I... [2:48:01] I can appreciate talent from like any... [2:48:04] Genre mm-hmm. So if you hear like a like a leonard skinner song you're like holy shit that guy is [2:48:09] sing the shit out of that note maybe i don't relate to what he's saying but like that was fucking dope [2:48:14] But I also think it helps you communicate and connect with people from different cultures, different backgrounds. Yeah, for sure. Because I listen to a lot of rap, a lot of Spanish music. [2:48:25] But then I'll listen to a lot of country as well. But like old country, new country, sometimes I feel like a lot of what comes up [2:48:32] Maybe because I don't dig into it too much, but a lot of what comes up on my algorithm is very modern, more poppy. Right. You know what I mean? I know what you mean. Yeah. Manufactured feels like. Yeah. Yeah. But I do like to listen to different types of shit because it's like I want to know... [2:48:49] Not that I necessarily want to know, but it helps me know and understand what, like...

[2:48:55] somebody from [2:48:56] a totally different part of the country might like experience or like enjoy or oh yeah for sure well that's the cool thing about traveling right that's one thing that comics have that really i think helps us get a better understanding of the whole country is you you're on the road a lot so you travel into ohio one weekend then you're in florida then you're in michigan and when you do that you get a better sense like oh this country varies a lot there's a lot of different kinds of [2:49:26] when I started traveling is [2:49:28] um, [2:49:29] how similar a lot of people also are. [2:49:31] Yeah. Like sometimes you run into people that are like very proud of like the city they're from and like their neighborhood. Yeah. And, and you know, they'll fight for it. They'll fucking die for it. Oh yeah. And then you go to another city and it's like the same person, just a different title. Yep. [2:49:45] Yeah, people get real tribal. They're real tribal for their stupid-ass town. [2:49:52] all right ralph barboza uh tell everybody where you're gonna be you got a website they can go to to find you with your seven tours seven date tour yes sir catch me in one of the seven c's uh at oh my website is called barbosacomedy.com you can see any shows i got coming up my instagram ralph barbosa 03 automotive channel formula bean if you want to see yeah definitely i'm gonna check that out i'm gonna subscribe to that for sure a couple beans just [2:50:18] street racing slow cars. How many videos do you have up there? [2:50:20] We got quite a few. So it was my buddy's... [2:50:24] YouTube channel before we converted it to like our channel. So it's just like tons of car footage on there. As far as since we became a channel, it might be like...

[2:50:32] 10, 15 videos. Nice. Yeah. What are you doing tonight? Yeah. [2:50:37] Take it off to New York. What time you leave? They're dropping me off at the airport right after this. I was going to invite you to come do the show at the mothership. There it is. Ralph Barbosa. Planet Bosa. [2:50:48] Yeah. Hularious stand-up comedy. I like that Hulu's doing this. Hulu did a lot of specials this year. It's great. Yeah, yeah. It's great. It's awesome. I was a little... [2:50:59] nervous about like switching over because i did my last one with netflix and this one a lot of hulu [2:51:05] I have Ulu. Everybody has Ulu. I figured, why not try it? Why not? I'm very happy they're doing that. Hell yeah. It's just nice. It's nice that there's more options for comics. [2:51:13] And Hulu also... [2:51:15] Thank you for the money they gave us. They came with the cash? Hell yeah. Nice. Nice. All right, Ralph Barboza. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you for coming in. Thanks for having me. Always fun to have you. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye. [2:51:41] This episode is brought to you by the Farmer's Dog. Here's a fun fact. Research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight. [2:51:52] Isn't that wild and also kind of obvious at the same time? So why is feeding vague scoops of ultra-processed kibble still the status quo for most dog owners? Healthy alternatives exist, and trust me, I know –

[2:52:06] I buy one, the Farmer's Dog. I use it for both my dogs. They love it. They eat it up quick. It smells good to them. It smells good to me. It's human-grade food. The Farmer's Dog makes fresh food for dogs, and my dogs love it. Their recipes are made with real meat and fresh vegetables that are gently cooked to retain vital nutrients. They also portion out the meals to your dog's nutritional needs, which helps avoid overfeeding and makes weight management easier and isn't getting more time with our four-legged [2:52:36] best friend something every dog owner wants the answer to that is [2:52:41] is yes, obviously. So try the farmer's dog today and get 50% off your first box of fresh, healthy food. [2:52:50] Plus, get free shipping. Just go to thefarmersdog.com slash rogan. This offer is for new customers only. [2:52:58] Are you one of those media strategy people clicking through slides, scrolling spreadsheets? Yes? Good! This is for you. Because on Spotify, there's an audience that's different. Locked in. Loyal. Invested. They're called fans. Fans don't just listen to music. They feel seen by it, like it belongs to them. So when your brand shows up on Spotify, that's who you're talking to. And you're right next to artists like me, Lizzo. So, are you ready to talk to fans? Spotify Advertising. You're among fans. [2:53:28] Thank you.