Jennifer Lawrence

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[01:58] while supplies last. [02:12] I mean, I think, [02:13] The stuff that you guys have done together is really, really special. But also you just shared a long history together as people in the world and friends. Well, that's very generous of you to say. And obviously, we've been enormous fans for 100 years. So it's like such an honor to talk to you. And I'm like pinching myself. And she is too that she's coming on the podcast. Oh, my God. She's so good at podcasts. I mean, she's so good at talking. That's that's her shit. [02:43] Jennifer, I do want to talk about you. Where did you grow up? [02:46] I grew up in Wilmington, Delaware. I actually think we have Aubrey Plaza in common. I grew up with Aubrey and did community theater with her. You did? Yes. Yes. You guys went to the same school, like you were in the same town? Yeah, we went to the same elementary school and we both were in community theater at the Wilmington Drama League, an esteemed venue for like most of our childhood. Oh my gosh, what was Baby Plaza like? [03:14] It's exactly the same as adult plaza. Yeah. It hasn't changed a bit. The greatest, the greatest. That's what a small world. And so the two of you are like, they're doing shows and, and, and performing. And then where, where does that take you after you graduate? I didn't really know.

[03:33] where I would fit in film. And so I... [03:37] took a bunch of odd jobs and explored. And during that period, I met Jen. And what was your first impression of her when you met? My first impression of Jen was that she was a wild beast and also that she had a [03:52] Because Jen didn't have like a traditional... [03:56] education. She also swerved a lot of the like social anxiety that I think a lot of [04:02] people our age had been plagued with. So, [04:05] Jen had this like abandon and lack of self-consciousness that was really unfamiliar to all of our friends. So we were sort of like wide eyed by her. And I think that that's something that she still possesses all these years later. It's something that she hasn't outgrown or, you know, she's she's never been. [04:25] Yeah, she has not become jaded by her totally surreal lifestyle. So how do you go from two young women sitting on a couch in a small L.A. apartment to running this big company and making these big movies? How does that work? Oh, man. I mean... [04:40] It's a loaded question. I think that we... [04:46] met as young women and, [04:49] obviously developed our taste together. We were discovering film [04:53] together. Everything from Wong Kar Wai to Sex in the City, you know, like it ran the gamut. And I also think that we, you know, [05:03] became best friends. And so,

[05:06] We care about similar things. We're moved by similar things. We have similar reactions to life and what's happening in the world. And that really is the basis for our decision-making around what we take on as producers. So I think the obviously extraordinary happenstance of Gen 1. [05:28] Jen's young success and her being in this [05:30] incredible position to get things made. And then Jen and I continuing to like care for our relationship and continuing to grow together. And so I think that, [05:43] The Odyssey is involved. [05:46] a ton of hard work and care and, um, [05:52] all the things you would imagine and also us, uh, [05:58] And continuing to grow and being excited to elevate each other. And also, I loved Causeway. [06:04] Thank you. Such a beautiful movie. I want to talk to Jen about it. I just, it's just a great, great movie. Beautiful director, Lila. We love Lila. Brian is so, Brian Tyree Henry is so good. Jen is so convincing as the character that she plays, like a physically and kind of spiritually wounded vet who's returning home. It's so good. Such a good movie. [06:27] It's always so nice to see Jen in those roles where... [06:32] the kind of like stripped back [06:34] quieter performances where it's so much of it is just happening in her eyes. You know, I don't I mean, I don't I don't know how to act like that.

[06:43] Like, I mean, we were kind of talking about we were talking about an interview and we're like, and, you know, it's hard not to be like, you're so good at acting. [06:53] But she is so good at acting. She's she's good. Pretty fucking good. Are there times when you're watching her and you're like, damn, she's really good at acting. [07:03] Every time, every time. Like I sat on probably 11 sets with Jen. And every time my mind just is like blowing out of my face. I'm like, still like it does not get old. She just levels up every time. You know her really well. You know, sometimes we ask people to talk well behind our guests back and they've worked with them or they kind of know them. But you know her really, really well. [07:27] Um, you've known her for a really long time and you're deep partners in, in, in work and you're loving friends in life and. [07:36] What do you think... [07:38] I should ask her today. [07:40] What do you want to know about, hear about, or what do you think she'd want to talk about or a story she'd want to tell? Oh, man. I mean, with Jen, it's funny because she is so... [07:51] um, like transparent in the spaces. Like, I don't think that she's somebody who, where there are like a ton of subjects that are off limits. Well, it's okay. This is really helpful because I've been prepping for the interview and I don't want to put her in an uncomfortable position ever to ask her something she doesn't want to talk

[08:13] she feels comfortable talking about, I guess. I think she is. And I think she'll also, like, tell you. Like, I think that she, I think, like, [08:22] She'll pivot if she needs to. You never have to answer a question if you don't want to answer. And it's a magic trick to not answer it. And people often forget what question they asked. [08:33] I mean, this isn't a good thing to tell a guest. Probably. This is probably not a good thing to get. But anyway, do you have it doesn't have to be a heavy question. It can be something small, anything that you think we should ask her today. I mean, gosh, like. [08:48] Maybe because she's in a position of constantly being asked questions and she is never in charge of what is being asked. Like maybe it's asking her, like, what would you like to talk more about that you don't feel? Whoa, that's a good friend. Opportunity to declare, you know, maybe maybe she has a big announcement or just something that she'd like to, like, reflect on. You know what? That's a really good friend, because what you're basically saying is just check in with her and see if there's anything she wants to talk about. [09:17] Yeah, it's so true. She like is tired of talking about, you know, that too. [09:22] Yeah. What are you, what do you want? It's basically like you're at the TSA and it's like, what do you want to declare? And what perishables would you like to get rid of? Totally. Yeah. Well, no, but thank you so much. And I will give your best to Aubrey Plaza. I like picturing you guys. [09:41] Being weird together in Wilmington.

[09:43] Yeah, that's the right picture. Justine, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Of course. All right. Nice talking to you. I need to watch. See you later. Okay. Take care. Bye. [09:57] This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. That's smart. Not checking that your car is in park before getting out? Let's just say you won't be making that mistake twice. Yeah, checking first is smart. [10:13] a quote that could save you hundreds, you're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary, subject to terms, conditions, and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. [10:43] I'm going to be here today because your style is so dope. Thank you. You have a great style. Oh, my God. That's the only thing you need to say to me. And what is your – I want to know how do you pick clothes? What is your relationship to clothes? Okay. Thank you so much. We'd love to talk about this. I'll just – Because I'm fascinated because I'm struggling with mine. [11:04] Well, I have very opinionated friends, one in particular, very opinionated friends. And we clear out – I do a lot of closet clean outs.

[11:13] I think living in New York helps with that. Yeah. I don't have a lot of excess stuff that confuses me. I have things that I really like. Do you think about, do you plan your outfits for the, I mean, obviously with press it's different. Loosely. I mean, I. Do you plan your outfits for the week? I do it like mentally. I like start kind of planning something and I take my kid to school and I know that I'm going to get photographed. Right. So I do kind of do like a mental thing. [11:37] Like, like, what do I, how do I want to present today? No, no. [11:44] Because, because the answer is always the same today. I want to present as like, [11:49] effortless, but you know, like [11:51] I don't even know what I put on. And you know what else is really important to remember? Tell me. You can write it down. I'm ready. Big goes with big. [12:02] Okay, this is a tall girl. This is tall girl. No, but if it's going to be tight... [12:08] If you're going to have a baggie and a tight, [12:10] You cannot ever have tight on the bottom baggie on the top. [12:14] or you'll look like a lamp. You can have baggie on the bottom and tight on the top, but you cannot do the other way around. I'll tell you something about baggie on the bottom. I wore a baggie on the bottom for you today. You did? Yeah. I'll show you later. I have baggie pants. I'm so short. It's tough. It's tough. It's tough to go baggie on the bottom. I have short legs, but a really long torso. Yeah. And big, thick, meaty arms.

[12:44] so okay it's a long torso i see then that silhouette you know your silhouette i guess yeah yeah and it's i mean you got great knowing is not loving dude you got great style i mean i and i and and like you like i'm always just looking to see how women are dressing like not not like just truly like how do we not just the style i try to take mental notes yeah when i see something and when i actually feel comfortable it feels like such a win yeah to wear something [13:14] good in and you also feel good in, it's like a hard thing to find. Yeah. You feel like you're like representing yourself accurately. Yeah. Yeah. Or the worst thing is like when you're like, I think I nailed it. And you see the picture. Years later. Not even years later. Oh my God. You're like, I remember feeling really good. Yeah. I had that recently because I was postpartum, but I was like, but I, but I had like in my, with my second, I had like bad postpartum. So [13:44] But inside you fell. I was like, strapless, let's do this. And my baby was like three weeks old. I mean, you, like a lot of people, like we're working through a lot of your pregnancies. And that's also a weird thing too, because you're like, [13:57] Your body is kind of, you're like bringing your body along for the ride. Well, I was surprised more people haven't talked about how skinny I am and I, my love, because I'm pregnant. And I've been waiting and nobody said it. Nobody's like, wow, you were pregnant? You looked so skinny. Like I've never had an Ozempic rumor. Not yet. Not yet? Not yet, honey. Thank you. Not yet. After this, after this, we're going to take this frame and we're going to squeeze it down. No, but it is true.

[14:27] When you talk about how tall I am. [14:30] No, but I love what you've been talking about. We have so many things to talk about today. And I just want to start by saying this is what I've. [14:38] gleaned from meeting you briefly and feeling like I, and I know people who know you really well and just like, I don't want to talk about them. I'm best friends with your mom. [14:55] You seem, and I know it's going to sound cheesy, but you like women. Oh yeah. I know, but I do. You do. And it shows. [15:08] champion. They're so misunderstood. You're always like, wait, think about the other side. Not all men. I have that tattooed. No, but you know, you, you, and the reason why to me, it's not what you say, it's not what one says is what they do. And what you do all the time that I think women do for each other is you like, you tell the real, real behind something. Like you, you're, you talk about like, this was difficult or I'm thinking about this or like you basically, [15:38] It's like a disservice to women. It's just like, okay, you know, and you do this thing that I really appreciate that comes through, which is you're trying to be honest in real time and trying to connect. And I think that's... [15:50] I think that's what women do for other women when they like women. That's the best way to say it. And so like today when I was thinking about our interview, I was like, oh,

[15:59] I've been really hearing you talk about [16:02] How you're trying to figure out the balance between who do I want to be and what parts of me do I want to give out to the rest of the world? And what parts do I want to keep for myself? Which feels like very like 30s. Totally. Where are you at right now with the balance of that? Because you are so famous and so real. Oh, thank you. And those two things are not always the case. Right. I think that when I do press, I should do half press. [16:26] than what normal people do. Because I see my quotes and they like, they're insane. Like, like Jennifer Lawrence calls Kourtney Kardashian annoying. It's just too, you know? Yeah, it's you're right. It's it's but it. [16:38] It carries. It carries. But it's... [16:42] Well, first of all, honestly, it's funny because you're so funny. Thank you. And the third piece of the puzzle I'll say is that you're very, you feel like a real person. You're very erotic. Oh, I thought you were going to say erotic. [16:56] You've had your hand on my knee this entire interview. And it's a long stretch. You have a really long arm. These pants are baggy. I really do baggy to get in there. [17:12] And deeply funny. Thank you. Oh, my God. You have no idea what that's like coming from you. You're my hero. Dude. But I don't say that to everybody. And, you know, God is fair. Like, usually you don't have all those things going at once. Usually you have, like, a very, like, important, interesting actor who's, like, really good at acting. But maybe, like...

[17:31] You know. [17:33] Maybe not the funniest. Or you have a deeply funny person who you wouldn't maybe believe in a scene, but you can do both. Oh, thank you. You would deeply, deeply. I could do this all day. Okay, well, I'm glazing, as the kids like to say. Is that what they say? You don't know. Glazing? Well, you've got teenagers. What do you want to know about teens? I know everything. You have two boys. I have two boys. You know, I missed my window to really ask about six, seven. I know that it's like... It's over now. I know. I missed the window, so I don't even care anymore. Actually, anything that we know is over. Right. [18:03] It's like your mom. Yeah, like if the New York Times is writing about it, it's been over. Like no one's saying it anymore. But to explain 6-7. I really, really liked Boots. [18:12] Like, like, like instead of period boots, but that's from drivers. I'm deceased boots. Like, yeah, like, well, like period end of boots. [18:23] Right. I feel like period's still around. But you're supposed to replace it with boots, I think. Or that's just a gay culture thing. I don't actually know. Yeah. [18:32] We could, I have a laptop. We could look it up. We could spend the entire chat GPT. Hello. Is boots young culture or just gay monoculture? [18:44] but I'm asking for a friend but what is it like you're in your mid-30s now you are I bet you're starting to feel just just what you just expressed which is like oh old oh yeah but it's weird right because you're you do not feel old and you're one does not really feel old in their 20s my assistant is 23 okay and so like I was doing like a closet clean out yesterday and she was like oh my god these are like real skinny jeans like they like it was like an artifact she was like wow they really

[19:14] at the bottom. And I'm like, and we were talking about baby mama. And I'm like, so funny. So funny. She was like, that was probably like the first comedy I ever saw. And I was like, how old were you? Seven. [19:23] You're a millennial? Yeah. Like mid-millennial. I don't know when it begins or ends, but I was born in 90. You know, there's this, I feel like you would like this, but we'll probably cut it. But there's this book that I'm obsessed with called The Fourth Turning. And it's all about how 80 years of history just keep repeating itself. And we're kind of getting at the end of the chaos era, which makes sense, right? For the past like 20, whatever years. But it's like each generation throughout the years have come forward to save people. [19:51] Like, you know, different eras from peril. And the millennials are going to be the heroes in the next season. [19:59] good luck. Oh, that sounds so hard. I'm so tired. But I believe in you and I wish you the best of luck. I was hoping that these kids would save us. No, it's you guys. And I feel like that makes sense because we've really, you know, I'm Gen X. Everybody like really gave it to millennials and like rolled their eyes at how well-parented they were, how blah, blah, blah. We just like thought that they were. And I think they're going to really show us they're going to save things. So [20:27] Chop, chop. Okay. All right. Thanks so much. Yeah, it is funny when you see like what gentle parenting is going to do. Yeah. [20:35] But OK, speaking of gentle parenting, this is a good segue. [20:38] I want to get to you go from I'm blown away by the story and I'm sure you've told it before, but I just need to know the details, which is Louisville.

[20:47] You're on a trip to New York with your mom. Yeah. And a guy comes up on the street and says... [20:54] Can I take your picture? Yeah. Tell us the story. Well, he took, okay. I will tell you the story and I just, I feel like I'm lying. Okay. It's an amazing story. Okay. But it's, it's, it is the truth, but it's just one of those. I'm like a woman. So I feel like I have to like apologize and then I'm lying. Um, I was in New York. I'm sorry for spring break. And I was watching street dancing in union square. Wow. Never seen that before. Not a lot of street dancing in Louisville. [21:24] scout came up to me and my mom and was like, can I take her picture? I'm like a model scout. And we were just like, cool. Okay. You know, no sense of danger. If he had like told us to meet him at a hotel room, we 100% want us. [21:39] And then he took my picture on the street. Joe Jonas actually wore the picture on his t-shirt at a concert one time. And it was the first time I had seen that picture since it happened. I was like, how did Joe Jonas get it? That's so weird. Weird. [21:53] I've since seen it. Got it. I don't really know what to do with it. I'm not going to like print it out. And so then I went... [22:01] And started being interviewed by like modeling agencies. And what was becoming like really apparent was like, if you're a model, you're a model. Like if you're a model, you're traveling, you're not acting like there's no commercials. There's no, you know. So somewhere in those interviews, I decided that I would only sign with an agency that would also let me act. Even though it hadn't been like an actual. Did you know any actors growing up? Did you think you would do that as a job? No, never. But then once it kind of like was. . .

[22:29] Brought up as a possibility. I mean, I did. I would always watch, like, Hillary Duff, like, when I got home from school. And then I would, like... [22:35] do Hilary Duff like in the mirror. So it kind of all came together. But it is really random that someone came up and was like, hey, kid, throw this pitch. And you like have the most amazing fastball. You're so good at acting. Oh, thank you. And the fact that someone was like, hey, do you want to go do this acting thing? I mean, I guess it was through modeling, but like they were like, hey, you I mean, it's so wild. It's it's a needle in a haystack kind of. Yeah. Do you think you would have pursued it if that didn't happen? [23:03] I don't think so. I don't think I would have been aware that that was possible. Although like being in the big city, I was like, oh, I want to live in a, I want to live here. I want to live in a big city. Did you have a vibe? Yeah. Like, you know, when you look back at your life sometimes and you see like Christmas cards where people say like, you know, hope you make it to New York someday. And you think like, did you ever feel like you had that version of like, I want to get out of Louisville. I want to go somewhere else. Yeah. I think like when it was happening, I think like, I mean, I really wasn't there for that long. When I think about it, like 13, 14, that's normally like before [23:33] Yeah. So once I came back, it was just like an impossible fever. It was just like, I got to get back there. I got to do what I got to, you know, and I had made money. I used to train horses and I would babysit. So I had like... [23:48] $3,000. And so I was like, I'm getting out of here. Let's get out of here. Yeah. You trained horses? Mm-hmm. [23:55] Wow. You proved my point that I feel like women and young girls that like horses usually have great hair.

[24:01] Wow! [24:03] I don't know. I have a bunch of theories. And one of them is that if you like horses, it makes your hair grow really thick. Oh, my God. Because what a friend of mine, every time she's on mushrooms, thinks that I look like my little pony. You have fantastic. This is for you, Rachel. This is for you, Rachel. Are you rolling right now because your mind is going to be blown? [24:33] And young in the years of like 19 to 22. Yeah. That was a lot. That's why I was so emotional over those skinny jeans. They were my 23-year-old rag and bones. Yes. And that was a tender time. I was. Because you were, how old, what year were you? 2012? 2012. Because you did Winter's Bone, a beautiful movie, incredible performance when you were 19. Then you... [24:59] do SNL close to that time too, like the following year maybe? Did I? Yeah, 20. [25:04] Yeah, because it was before... [25:06] uh, [25:07] Oscars for Silver Linings. At Winter's Bone, I remember being too young to drink. But at the Oscars. And what were your memories of doing SNL at that time? [25:18] Skewed. I feel like I've read. You weren't on the cast then. No, 2012. I had left in 2008. And then by 2012, I was doing Parks and Rec. [25:29] Okay. I don't, I think I have to, I have to go back and do it again because I had walking ammonia. I was like under a lot of pressure and doing a lot. And I was shooting one of the Hunger Games movies. I was shooting, I think the second one while doing all of this campaign. And I would have to like fly, go to a party, shake hands and then land and, you know, shoot like, poor me. But I was very tired. And so I think I was just, I remember I was also at that bad age. I don't

[25:59] get asked like can you do any impressions or anything and I was like [26:02] No. Yeah. You know, like I don't want to be like, and I can do this and I can do that. I just kind of made everything like everybody else's problem. I was like, I don't know how to do that. I can't do that. [26:13] Totally. I know. And also, I mean, it's hard to be. [26:18] young in on that show. It's just hard. But your relationship to comedy, what is it like now? Do you want to make more, do more, direct more, write more? I would love, I wrote a comedy. You did? And I would love to direct it. And I'll star in it. Oh my God, you should. Thank you. No Hard Feelings was great. You were hilarious in it. Thank you. It was such a good movie. Well, I did not write and direct that one. Although I guess I could tell people that I did. I always could. People don't listen. They don't pay attention. After I wrote and directed No Hard [26:48] feelings. It really got me thinking. But thank you. I had a lot of fun doing it. And you want to direct as well. Yeah. Yeah. Right on. Yeah. Great. I mean, everybody does. You know, I think that's true. Like, I feel sometimes people are not into it. But I feel like I mean, are you finding that like having worked now? [27:07] and done a lot of stuff now that you're realizing like, Oh, I want more control in what I, what I do and how I like. Yeah. But I also, I had my first movie ever was a female director. And then I actually ended up working with more female directors and met male directors. So as a teenager, it was like really like, [27:27] Not formidable. Formidable? Yeah, formidable. Forming. Formidable? It was a farming culture for me. So that made me like realize. I got to get this word. It's formidable. No, it's like formative. Formative. Informative.

[27:47] Well, it's a formative experience. Formative. Is that what it is? Formative? Yeah, here we go. Formative. Something that relates to formation or development is shaping and influencing something else. That is precisely what I mean. Yeah, we did it. [28:02] So it was formative, but I realized that that was even possible for me to do it. So I had wanted to do it since I was a teenager. So then when I went into movies in my 20s and now, I always tell the director. [28:17] me in the process and let me see like post and all that stuff. What is, what's important for you when you work? Like what, what's the thing you like to do? For example, like, do you feel like once I'm on set, I want to, [28:27] escape and just like dive in and I want other people to handle the stuff. Do you like to do like the logistics of the work? Oh, I do like the logistics. You do. Like you like a call sheet and you like knowing what's going to happen during the day. Yeah, but I think that's like, that's a woman's brain. Yeah. You know, it's just, it's really my producing partner and I have been on sets together since we were 21 and we fuck up a call sheet. I mean, we, and when I have like a friend that's going to go do something, I'm like, send me your call sheet. I'll get you two days. [28:57] Um, we just know how to make it make sense. We it's, it's divine. So I like the logistics. I also, I need to connect and have friends immediately. Like I got to dive in and find, you know, the camera guys, like I got to find like who my, you know, people are going to be so interesting. You got it. Yeah. Cause you're like, we're going to, which is not a photo shoot.

[29:18] photo shoot, I don't want you to talk to me. I just want... Totally agree. I just want it to be over as fast as possible. And it's just all of it so embarrassing. You know, like, put your hand like this. [29:35] Or if you're considered a funny person, the worst part is they're like, we have a bunch of props. Oh, no. We have clown shoes for you, you fucking clown. Put on the shoes, you fucking clown. But it's so true. I mean, I've been [29:48] a chill goes down your spine. They're like, just, it's always a whisper. There's a bunch of fun props if you want to play with them in anything. If you want to play with them like you're a baby. Oh no. It's like a giant lollipop and a rubber chicken. Yeah. Like that's not going to come naturally to me. Like if you want me to pull on the rubber chicken, I will, but you have to direct me to pull on it. And the other thing is like, we have a really fun idea. You have all this barbecue sauce on your face. Like it's always, [30:18] smile your way through it. You're such a good time. Right. Okay. Mine aren't that bad. I'm kind of shocked to hear that. Well, I'm not shocked. We were thinking you wouldn't wear a bra for this. I'm like, I've had two children. And they're like, no. You want me to show you something? Come here. I'm going to show you something.

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[32:28] Switch today at visible.com. Plans start at $25 a month or get our premium visible plus pro plan and save $10 on your first month when you use promo code hang, an exclusive offer for podcast listeners. Terms apply. See visible.com for plan features and network management details. [32:48] This episode is brought to you by K18. So you've tried a million different hair masks only to watch your results literally wash down the drain? Well, you should know that K18 molecular repair hair mask actually reverses damage. Thanks to the patented K18 peptide, you'll get strong, soft, bouncy hair in just four minutes. Color, bleach, heat, however your hair has been damaged, this totally transforms it from the inside out. Shop at Sephora or get 10% off your first purchase [33:18] 2018Hair.com with the code Amy. [33:25] Because a good hang, we're always looking for a good hang. [33:28] questions I want to ask you. I want your opinion about things. Oh, okay. I want your hot takes. Okay. Oh yeah. No problemo. I know you like to give hot takes. Yeah. And I want, and these are important things. Okay. I got to take it easy on the housewives though. I always get, I get like, okay, I'm going to tell you something about, I don't know that much about housewives. Okay. No, no, no. It's fine. I mean, that's good. But you like below deck. [33:49] Jijde. [33:50] Yeah. [33:51] First question, if you were on below deck, what would you want your job to be? Which which? Oh, a stew. [33:58] She's too...

[33:59] Well, no. No. No, I would go into that laundry and I'd fuck that laundry up. I'd put a podcast in. I'd steam. I'd fold. I'd have a system. I'd have a color-coded system. I don't mean people never want to go down to the laundry and blow deck. And it's like, why? You don't have to talk to any of the people. You're there by yourself. Yeah, I'm alone. And again, I would put one ear pod in. I'd listen to some murder and I'd just fucking fuck that shit up. It'd be so satisfying. And also doing like... [34:27] Doing turndown would be one of the most satisfying than getting the lines in the vacuum perfectly. Do you have like, are you a earth sign? What's your, what you've got like a, um, I'm a Leo. Oh, so, okay. So you've got, but you have a lot of grounded. You like organizing. You like straight things. Straightening. I'm not organized. Is your house neat? Yeah. [34:46] Well, I... [34:47] I mean, if you look at my bedside table and then you look at my husband's bedside table, mine is an explosion. Pills everywhere. I mean, I look like I'm dying. [34:57] What is her malady? And my husband's is just a bottle of water. Yeah. Okay. But you like. But I do. I get satisfied once it's like time to clean up. You like a good system. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense to me. And then, okay, another question is, do you have a nickname? [35:17] Fluffen. [35:19] Nitro. [35:21] Boobs.

[35:24] Boobs Lawrence, the full government name. [35:31] Nitro. Where did Nitro come from? My brothers, because I was really hyper, and they called me Nitro. I love that you are. Oh, and my friends call me Ken from the Barbie movie, because I'm just Ken. I think it's their way of calling me stupid. [35:45] Whenever I ask something stupid, they're like, she's just Ken. [35:51] Um, you're, you have two older brothers. Yeah. And what was it like growing up like with older brothers? What do you feel like there's a thing that happens to like, what's the good part about having two older brothers? [36:02] Is there one? I mean, they were great. They were really protective, not with themselves. [36:13] Did it make you tough? Yeah, I think it made me tough. As the mother of sons, I will say, and you're going to eventually notice this too, because you had brothers, the way boys and young boys talk to each other won't be as shocking. You're going to use to it. No, in fact, I find myself doing it. [36:32] And that's kind of a love language. Like, yeah, when I've noticed the way that you interact with people that you work with, it also feels like you turn people into brothers. Like feels like I think I do. Josh Hutcherson was a brother. It feels like Robert Pattinson feels like a brother. Yeah. Oh, you're so right. Okay. Doritos, your opinion. [36:50] Love them. Me too. Cool. [36:52] I mean, but now I'm like older and I'm like, think about like what's in it. I mean, not if I'm like on a plane. If I'm on a plane and I see him, I'm going to, I'm going to get eight. But yeah, but I do think about it more. Okay. Do you do any impressions?

[37:05] No. [37:07] Do I? [37:08] Thank you. [37:09] No, I don't think so. I feel like I've seen you do. I feel like I've seen you do. [37:15] Who do I do? Housewives impressions, but no. I have to text. Do you want to do the game that we do? We do this game in SNL, which is, it's like, do it or die. And it's basically, you don't have to do it. We can cut it, but it's really fun to play. And you can do it to me too. Would you just give someone a, [37:32] a name and they have to do it. I have to do an impression in 10 seconds. It doesn't have to be good, but if you don't do it, you'll die. Okay. Okay. You ready? And Robert De Niro. [37:42] Me. [37:45] You did it! [37:48] You did die! Me? [37:53] I would love to see a recut version of him not saying, are you talking to me? But just going... [37:59] Me? [38:03] I mean, I... [38:06] So what's the coldest day you've ever had on set and the hottest day you've ever had on set? Coldest was... [38:13] I mean, I know like the real answer was like, you know, one of the Hunger Games movies where I was like on a frozen lake, but it was actually in Calgary doing Die My Love because it was August. So it was supposed to be warm. And so there wasn't like there weren't like warming coats or anything. And, you know, I'm just in like. [38:30] a t-shirt or whatever and so that was the coldest that like broke my heart like made me want to cry this proves my theory that marty short you did cry yeah i did you were so cold yeah yeah um this proves my theory that i said to marty short like it's never warm in canada never and it's always fucking freezing and it's freezing in august always and canadians pretend like oh we had a really nice day and it's like you did not have a nice day i know you were very cold it's really cold um when you're cold and you cry on set and i didn't cry on set i cried in my trailer to justine

[39:00] And she was like, what's wrong? And I was like, I'm just feeling really cold. But I was pregnant. I just remembered. Yeah. Yeah, of course I cried. I probably cried every day. Yeah, that movie seems like there was a lot of tears. It was fun. It was fun to play somebody. But you have to do some stuff, man. You have to go for it in some movies. And I'm like, this is hard. Screaming all day, crying all day. All day. Hard, but you're so blessed. I'm blessed. Me? [39:30] I'm talking to me. That's what I'm over here. [39:37] Hottest day on set. Hottest day on set. Hottest time you remember working and it was really hot. No, I know what you mean. [39:47] I answered the first one. I obviously put the context together. I thought maybe you were thinking about something more erotic. I think it was the first Hunger Games episode. [39:57] Yeah, the first Hunger Games we were shooting in North Carolina. It was humid, and we had those jackets on. Oh, yeah. And you had to run in those jackets, too. And running in the jackets, yeah. Speaking of running, I feel like my next question, what I love about you is how you don't feel... [40:13] like you're competitive with other actresses and you really wish for other people's success, but in a foot race, who would win between you and... [40:20] And Emma Stone. She's got like really tiny bones. And I just have very thick bones. So what does that mean for running? That's hard to know because it's smaller, thinner bones.

[40:32] You might be faster out of the gate. I think if I got a clock in, I'd knock her out in like two seconds. Oh, 100%. No offense, Emma, if you're listening, but you would definitely knock her out with one punch. I could take her out. If it was like a fight or a wrestle, she'd stun me. But running, I don't know because I don't know if her hollow bones give her an advantage. Karaoke, what's your go-to? Any man of mine, Shania Twain. [40:59] I don't know that one. This is where your Kentucky comes in. Oh. Any man of mine. Yeah. [41:12] Look how cute she is. I still don't know this. But you like it, right? Do you do the whoops? Yeah, of course. [41:23] This is what I want the looks. [41:26] And a man of mine better be fried up, man. Even when I'm ugly, he still better love me. And I can be late for a date, that's fine, but he better be on time. [41:37] Any man of mine say it's just right When a left-hears dress is just a little too tight And anything I bet is to say better be okay When I've had a bad hair day And if I change my mind a million times I want to hear him say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Like it's not the way

[42:07] What the love? Oh my God, you're good. I know, really good. [42:18] Very good. I love karaoke too. Yeah, and I'm on key. You are on key. Yeah. Did you ever, you're a good singer? No. [42:27] That's not true. I just heard it. I just heard it. I know you did. I knew you heard it. Okay, anyway, moving on. All right, all right. Have you ever been awarded a middle or high school superlative? Middle school or high school superlative? Most talkative. [42:40] Two years in a row. Third year I left. I was in New York. You've got to get out of here. [42:47] Talked my way right out of the building. Most talkative. Yeah. Most talkative. And for me... [42:54] The three that were like cousins were talkative, [42:57] Like class clown and mischievous. Like they all were like together. We didn't have those. We had talkative best smile. Cause I remember not getting that one. You were going for that one. And like, no, I was going for Ms. Cammer. [43:10] Miss what? Miss Camer. Camer is the name of the school. [43:15] This is like the rural ger. [43:19] Miss Camer. Camer Middle School. Camer? Camer Middle School. [43:28] That's where I went to school. Okay. We kind of went over this already. Horses, yes or no? Yes. Okay. So, [43:37] Do you do that crazy thing where you insist on doing your own stunts? No. And have you ever...

[43:42] I feel like, okay, great. Just keep that up. Okay. Um, best album or song of the year. What are you listening to that you love? Oh, I don't know any current music. I, once they got rid of the radio, I really, I didn't know. I mean, how am I supposed to know what's coming out? I just have my phone. But what part of my phone, my phone has podcast. I mean, playlists. Do you not listen to, do you not? I don't listen to like, how do you listen to live music on your phone? Honestly, [44:12] learn about new music from Instagram or TikTok that I then go and buy. The Lily Allen, I don't know when this podcast is coming out in the future, but the Lily Allen album dropped a couple weeks ago. And whoo-wee. Oh, I love it. So good. Yeah. So good. I didn't know it was a pussy palace. And Managamami. Managamami. So good. So good. Yeah. And Tennis. Tennis might be my favorite one from the album. She's so talented. She's so talented. I feel like this, I was just saying to someone, [44:42] I feel like the pop stars, like they're just the female pops, like they're just. [44:46] dominating in every area of music. I know. Charlie XCX is so cool. I know. Do you know her? I feel like you guys would hang out. I don't know her. I mean, would she hang out with me? I don't know. Of course she would. Just call her up. I will. Okay. So let me talk about your movie, Die My Love, which looks amazing. And you, once again, like you're, if I haven't made it clear, you're so good at acting. Thank you very much. That's really, really nice. And you really are

[45:16] And do you feel that? Yeah, yeah, definitely. Do you feel like, was there ever a time when you thought, there's anything else I would want to do? It just feels like... [45:24] Every time I'm on a press store. [45:27] You're like, you know what? I get it. Yes. [45:32] Yeah. It just doesn't feel like how does anybody. Yeah. But do you feel like when you get on set, do you feel, or when you're really in the work, you feel super relaxed? Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like, it's hard and you're tired and, you know, you'd rather be like home. Yeah. But. But you're into it. [45:54] This process seemed really cool. Like Lynn and you and Robert seemed like you guys. Lynn Ramsey, the director, seemed like you three... [46:02] Had some kind of way of working that seemed really creative and cool. Was that true? Yeah, it was cool. Because Lynn and I talked about it for like years before we like really had a script. [46:12] So I felt like... [46:14] We had had so many conversations about this person and about her circumstances that by the time we got there... [46:20] there was just like a lot of freedom. It was like kind of scary, you know, like, [46:26] like an improv-y type of situation where it's just like, go. It's kind of like, under what terms? I know. But it was really, really fulfilling. I was like... [46:38] challenging in a nice way. And you're playing somebody who's kind of like [46:42] descending into... [46:44] Madness. Madness. Mm-hmm. And when you're playing something like that, do you track...

[46:50] you know, [46:51] Are you always trying to figure out like, where is she at in this scene? Like, how far is she gone? [46:58] Kind of, I thought that I was going to have to do that a little bit more, but it ended up just being like finding... [47:05] the truth of what she was saying, like in the moment, which I think sometimes it didn't end up being as... [47:11] I don't know, like... [47:13] crazy, as I thought. But the costumes helped with that because I think they move from a different place. And so at first, she dresses really differently and sticks out. And then as she stays there, she starts to blend in with the community. And so that was a good way that I could mark where my headspace would be. That's a very cool idea. Right. That you're realizing, I'm wearing this pair of pants, which reminds me that I'm in this mental space. [47:43] And it's kind of getting back full circle to what we're talking about, but clothes, like I do feel like clothes, like there are certain outfits, for example, that I wore during COVID that I cannot wear again because they just, oh, because of COVID. Oh, it's like when you wear like work pants and then they get ruined because they're work pants. Or you get broken up with in a shirt and you can never wear it again. Like clothes hold some memory. Yeah. [48:05] But you got to just get them right out of there. You got to get them out of there. Yeah. Okay. We've mentioned your producing partner. [48:12] Justine a few times. We have? You have. Oh, really? You mentioned her twice. Oh, my God. Yeah. And she's like your best... [48:19] like a really long time friend. Tell us about her. She's yeah, my best friend. We met,

[48:26] Right after I did Winter's Mountain, so I was 19. [48:30] Um... [48:30] And we fell in love with movies. We, we like read together. We like discovered Walt Whitman together. Um, so it was like, so we like, I think our like consciousness like woke up together and we were like, and she was always like. [48:49] She was my roommate when I started getting really famous, and she was really... [48:54] I think I credit her a lot with like why I didn't start kind of getting too big for my britches or anything because everything was really real with her. Yeah. [49:05] And she's just I'm really lucky to have her. I feel really happy. [49:10] I love her a lot. I feel loved by her. I trust her completely. I trust her taste. She's also a really hard worker. She likes hard work. So, yeah, I'm really lucky. I wouldn't normally recommend working with friends, but in our case, it's worked out nicely. You guys started a production company, Excellent Cadaver. Yeah. You produced... About six or seven years ago. You've been working together for a long time, and your company's produced a bunch of amazing films, including Causeway, [49:40] my most favorite things I've ever seen you do. I love that movie. Thank you. So good. Thanks. For people who haven't seen it, check it out. It's you and Brian Tyree Henry. Incredible from Atlanta and many other things. Incredible actor. And you two play vets who are kind of physically and spiritually struggling and back home. And it's such a good, and Lila is an amazing director. Lila Nugabauer. It was her first film, but she's a big theater director and she's great.

[50:10] is itchy is this gross? No, but you know itchy ears are a sign of perimenopause, so congrats. [50:19] Congrats, babe. We'll cut that. Oh, no, we'll double that. We're going to make it really loud. Yeah. It's just like the preview. We're going to underline it with volume. We're here with perimenopause suffrage. I always thought that would be a good drag name by the way, is perimenopause. Oh, it is. That really is. I know. [50:39] But anyway, we talked to Justine. You did? Yes. Oh. Because we do this thing where we have people... [50:46] talk about our guests and like talk well behind their back and give me a question to ask them. And I talked to Justine today. I should have known. I listened to this podcast. I don't know why I'm so like beside my, I'm surprised. What did she say? She had a really good question. I thought, which was basically like, what do you want to talk about? She was like, ask Jen what she wants to talk about and what she's sick of talking about. [51:08] Oh, I thought that was a good friend question. I'm sick of talking about the movie. Yeah, great. We won't. We're going to cut it out. And I want to talk about. What are we not talked about that you want to talk about? Oh, I think we've covered everything. We've talked about things that I would have never known that I wanted to talk about that I wanted to talk about. Yeah. So I don't. [51:31] I can't answer it. Okay. Okay. [51:34] Thank you. [51:34] Well, I don't know. [51:40] What do you listen to, watch? What makes you laugh? How do you get yourself up the elevator? Well, you make me laugh. Thank you. You're on my algorithm a lot, and you and Tina. And you guys hosted...

[51:55] Golden Globes that I was at and you were the funniest people I've ever seen in my life. You made me proud to be a woman. Was that when we said that [52:06] Um, [52:07] American Hustle was... [52:09] The title of the way the explosion at the wig factory. [52:16] Yeah. But what? OK, but what do you listen to read? Watch? Who makes you laugh? [52:23] I watch Veep. Oh, yeah. So we interviewed Julia recently. You did? Oh, I called her the LeBron James of comedy. She has won so many championships with different teams and she rejected that. [52:39] that title. That's so her. I mean, what if she was like, thank you. I know. Um, yeah, she's, she's a hero of mine. Um, I love modern family. Um, are you like a true millennial and you watch things that you've watched before just to go to sleep? Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm Gen Z and I, I don't know what they do. You just love your robot. You sell my clothes online. You kiss your robot and sell your clothes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, um, I mean, I feel like we covered so much good [53:09] too. I can't wait for it to come out. I'm going to be the first to watch it. Last question is, I know you do like a lot of reality TV. [53:19] What show would you want to be on of all of them? Well, I mean, want to be on them. I guess the Kardashians. Because then I'd be like on a private plane going to like Fiji. That's true. Because the other ones, like they're not.

[53:35] they're not like having a good time. Yeah. Like there's no comfort. Yeah. You're right. You're right. Maybe, maybe, yeah. Cause you just mentioned amazing race and I feel like sometimes there's like a little part of me that thinks I would be good. I tried to go on Bear Grylls. You did? And they really let you? No, I, what happened was I was like, I was determined to do it. I ended up getting pregnant and I, but I was still going to do it. And then I texted my OBGYN and I [54:05] anything I should like tell them? And he was like, you're not doing that. I was like, I don't know. And then I just, after. Do you know the show Alone? Have you, are you? I love Alone. Oh my God. Building the fortresses, building the cabins. Ugh. Isn't building the houses, isn't that the part that you want to do the most? And if I may. Yeah. [54:26] And the amount of energy that people build on their houses is fascinating because some people, you're like, you're going to get way too tired. This house is too nice. Yeah, they're burning a lot of calories. They're burning a lot of calories. Yeah. Other people, it's like, you're sleeping under a tarp for six weeks? Yeah. Like, you've got to get your house together. Yeah. What's wrong with you? I know. The in-between of that is fascinating to me. Yeah. The bugs. Whew. It was really satisfying when you're a guy, white man, didn't bring a fire starter because he was just like, I can do it. I saw that one. [54:56] Yeah, that was really satisfying. I had a schadenfreude, if you will. [55:02] I also love the men that come on really strong and immediately like twist an ankle. Yeah, I do love that. Or the other thing that takes them down, their stomachs.

[55:12] And I'm surprised that they don't have them just go with Cipro, that like Cipro isn't just like in there. Maybe they do. I don't think they do. It doesn't seem like they do. The diarrhea takes everybody down. They get diarrhea immediately. [55:26] Immediately. [55:28] I need diarrhea immediately. [55:31] And men are just, they cannot handle when they don't feel good. They just, everything falls the fuck apart. So they're just like, I don't feel good. And you're like, see you later, dude. [55:42] Men are just weaving baskets and staying there for 100 days. Yeah. Anyway, Jennifer Lawrence. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. Thank you for spending time here today. I think I've overstayed my welcome. If you want any food from the back wall. What if I just grabbed your favorite? I just grabbed the soup template. It was like, thank you. Bye. [56:03] Thank you so much, Jennifer Lawrence. That was so fun. And thanks for being here. And, you know, for this polar plunge, I always like to dig a little deeper on something that we spoke of in the podcast. And I would just highly recommend that you watch Causeway. It's such a great film. Jennifer's [56:20] So good in it. Brian Tyree Henry is so good in it. Incredible actor directed by Lila Neugebauer. And it's just really, really good. It's just a... [56:32] I don't know. I just loved it. I think you will, too. Check it out. Thank you for listening. Please come back soon. Bye.

[57:02] All I ever wanted was a really good hand. [57:07] Relax and let Kroger Delivery handle your grocery shopping this week. [57:12] We start with only the freshest items. Then we carefully pack your order in our refrigerated trucks so your food stays cool and fresh on its way to your door. [57:23] And right now, you can save $30 on your first pickup or delivery order and get unlimited free delivery. Restrictions apply. See site for details. Kroger. Fresh for everyone. [57:36] Hi everyone, I'm two-time World Cup winner for the U.S. Women's National Team, Julie Ertz. And I'm former NWSL star, Kaylia Watt. Welcome to Style of Play. From the U.S. Women's National Team to the global stage, we're talking to stars on the pitch and special guests from across all sports and entertainment. We're also getting real about life after the game, motherhood, and what it's like raising kids in a two-pro athlete home. Make sure to follow us on social at Style of Play Show and subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. You ready, Kay? Let's go! [58:06] Thank you.