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Olivia Colman

Olivia Colman is a good crier. Amy hangs with the Oscar-winning actor and talks about Olivia's love for 'Cheers,' Gen X work ethic, and enjoying watching her husband fall down. Host: Amy Poehler Guests: Benedict Cumberbatch and Olivia Colman Executive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-Berman For Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel Lovell For The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, and Aleya Zenieris; lighting director Caroline Jannace, audio producers Kaya McMullen & Devon Baroldi; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and booker Kat Spillane Original Music: Amy Miles Introducing Visible Inner Circle: Connect accounts with anyone, share the savings. Join for $25/mo. Visit https://www.visible.com/plans/inner-circle Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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[00:00] This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking your pockets before putting clothes in the washer? [00:09] Oof. Enjoy your freshly cleaned and completely destroyed earbuds. Yeah, checking first is a good plan. So check Allstate first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary subject to terms, conditions and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. [00:29] So you're saying with Hilton Honors, I can use points for a three-night stay anywhere? Anywhere. What about fancy places like the Canopy in Paris? Yeah, Hilton Honors, baby. Or relaxing sanctuaries like the Conrad and Tulum? Hilton Honors, baby. What about the five-star Waldorf Astoria in the Maldives? Are you going to do this for all 9,000 properties? [00:52] When you want points that can take you anywhere, anytime, it matters where you stay. Hilton, for the stay. Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Oh, what a lovely guest we have today. Olivia Colman, an incredible actress, just a dear... [01:08] tender, beautiful person. And we are going to talk about a lot of great things today. We're going to talk about whether or not it's important to fight in relationships. We're going to talk about playing the queen. We are going to talk about her new movie, The Roses, and all the hilarious people that she got to be in it with. We're talking about so many good things today. But we always want to start these episodes by bringing in someone who knows our guest,

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[01:38] who ease into our guest, who gives us a question to ask our guest. And we had a big star today. We have an actor who was in... [01:49] Dr. Strange. [01:50] He was Sherlock. He is in the Roses. He is also famously in a Key and Peele sketch where they name football player names. He is the one, the only one. [02:04] Benedict Cumberbatch. [02:06] from Oxford University. [02:10] Benedict, hello. [02:29] I can see you now because I'm wearing these glasses like this. [02:32] You're a beautiful blonde blur, but like that, you're a very sharp blonde. Now, what's your prescription? Because are you new to glasses? 1.6, something like that. I'm new to sort of giving into them. Yeah, same. I'm just, I like need them for reading, but not yet for driving. [02:48] It's so boring, isn't it? And I'm not one of those people who get my... I can't get them lasered. It's very boring. It's not boring because I feel like... [02:56] Now that I can hide behind glasses, my life has changed. And also, people think I'm smarter. Anyway, hi. Nice to see you. Thank you for doing this. You're so welcome. Okay, I know you're in the middle of a giant press thing, and we are talking to Olivia. Yeah, I'm a little hurt, but there we go. I know. Sorry, we couldn't get you. But you signed a restraining order against me many years ago, and you don't let me get close to you. That's true. After the Golden Globes is right. Okay, so...

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[03:22] So question for you, before we get to your question, we're asking, we like to do this thing when we have our guests on where we talk to people who know them and kind of talk well behind their back. And the first thing I just wanted to say is that when I was doing some research on the film, The Roses that you're promoting, and also you and Olivia, you guys haven't worked together as much as I assumed you would have. [03:42] We've never worked together. Never. [03:44] No. And we've been friends for a long time and always said, we should work together. And this is what was sort of born out of that conversation. What kind of friend is Olivia? [03:53] incredibly loyal, ridiculously good fun. She facilitates naughtiness. [04:00] She's just sort of... [04:04] Is it preternaturally? Is that the phrase upbeat? I mean, it's kind of, that's the one, if there's a critique of her, it's like, how the fuck is she doing this authentically? I don't understand how this person can be so... [04:14] good at being [04:15] Just upbeat and just delightful. And she literally, this is veering into work rather than friendship, but it's the same with friendship. But she can go into a work environment any moment that we were in the studio together. And you just see everyone, all the crew, everyone going, ah. Everyone just feels excited and brightened by her being around. It feels that way when you watch her work and then also be herself. And I have, you know. [04:39] We kind of get this, we kind of came or I came on to upon this theory when I was at SNL, which you were so brilliant on, is you have all these people come through and. [04:49] you realize that usually the most talented people are the easiest to work with. Yeah, kind of. The older I get, the more I just, that's sort of,

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[05:00] I can't be doing with people who are hard to work with. That's my one sort of curmudgeonly kind of thing. It shouldn't have to be hard. Okay, and then the other thing I wanted to ask you, and then we'll get to your question. There's nothing more satisfying than when somebody has a sense of humor about themselves. [05:17] Like it's such a sign of intelligence. Like, and you and Olivia are, [05:22] in this movie really go at each other. Your characters really go at each other. But do you feel like there's also just a way in which Brits are allowed to kind of tease in a heartier and more sharp way than Americans? I don't know. Personally, I think there's often a very barbed, cruel, and slightly pinched, [05:42] aspect to British irony. I think it could get a bit too much, to be honest. As an English characteristic, the sharpness of it isn't something I find that pleasant. It's very funny in this film. I think also, Americans, and this is obviously played up in the kind of cultural difference, one of the key differences between our version and the original Michael Douglas, Anthony Turner and Danny DeVito film, is that they're an English couple in an American world, and that much later the culture clashes and misunderstandings to great effect, but [06:11] They start roasting each other. And actually, you as a culture, I think, have completely one-upped it. You're right. We have passed you in the mean Olympics. You've gone the darn. You've broken. There's a good trade, I think, which evens us out, both in the gross-out humor and also the very sort of well-thought-through, ironic culture.

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[06:30] witty intellectual human. I don't know if we [06:34] We play out the difference, but I don't think there is so much of a difference in what it's very interchangeable. I agree. I think it's very hard to pull off both physical comedy and really like sharp and sarcastic wit. Both of those things are hard to do well. [06:46] Yeah, I think if you could do that, you could do anything. I grew up with two parents, both actors, my mum in particular doing, you know, sort of end of the pier kind of whoops, there go my Nicker Vickers, Nicker Vickers, Nickers Vicker kind of farces. And to the point where I was like, mum, you've got to do something else now. [07:16] the audience and go and then walk off um so you know having grown up with that kind of humor if you can do comedy is my point you can do anything i really do believe that and i'm not just of course i feel i you don't have to tell me babe every single year at the oscars everybody gets blanked [07:36] And all the serious people get up and accept and accept and accept. I know. I know. It's true. And it's some hot bullshit because comedy is not easy. And I got to tell you, both you and Olivia can do both. I will. Thank you. Thank you. That's great. OK, so do you have any question for Olivia today? [07:58] Yeah. Okay. Um,

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[08:01] Is she wearing any underwear? No. [08:04] Is there something she's afraid of? Because I think she's one of the most fearless performers that I know. I don't see her being afraid of anything, but I wonder if there is. I wonder. Oh, that's a great question. Yeah. And would she do it? That's the other thing. What are you most afraid of? And would you be any good at facing that fear? Deep question. I should be doing this interview. Deep question. Yes. I mean, do you want to switch places here? No, because everyone wants to hear you do the interview. [08:31] Okay, well, I know you are an hour or two of a 12-hour marathon. Congratulations on the film. Thank you so much for doing this. I hope we get to see each other not in full formal wear someday, but at an actual... I do too. That'd be lovely. Much love. Thank you so much, Benedict. Appreciate it. Thanks for your time. [08:52] This episode is brought to you by Visible. Visible is the ultimate wireless hack. [09:01] with no flexibility. With Inner Circle, you can connect accounts with whoever you want, friends, family, neighbors, you name it. Unlock savings together with the freedom to leave, switch, or change your circle anytime. Join for just $25 a month and with personalized payments, paying together or keeping it separate is up to you. Plus, it's all powered by Verizon with unlimited 5G data, so you get reliable coverage and a connection you can count on. Join now at

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[09:31] month, $25 per month rate on the Visible Plan. Hello, hello, hello. Okay, thank you for coming and being here. Thank you so much for having me. You know, I was looking over your life, like your timeline, because we're the same age. Are we? About the same age. You look much younger than me. No, you do actually. I'm 50. Hold on, I have to remember. I was born in 71, so I'm 50. [09:56] You're born in... I'm 74, so... [09:58] Yeah. Well, so you're a little younger than me. Well, I look older. Americans just look better. [10:04] Do you think? Yeah. Well, British people seem smarter. So everything is out. [10:10] You'll find out. That's not true. And you'll find out. And when you get a little closer. Okay. So, but we, but, you know, we kind of have some parallels because you met a lot of your friends and coworkers at Footlights. Yeah. Kind of, you know, you went to this very... [10:29] important place that we Americans used to hear about. Yes, I wasn't actually at the university, but this is something that gets regularly. You were not at Cambridge. I was in the town of Cambridge working as a cleaner. Very interesting. How did you get into full lights? Well, I was at the teacher training college for about a term, I think, and left. And then no one questioned me [10:59] so I just would turn up to things and this and was there like an auditioning process to get into footlight yes and that's where I met my lovely friends who then basically were responsible for me getting work for years afterwards yeah because but I just feel very it feels like a big lie if I guys at Cambridge this is already very British the distinction that you didn't go to school there is and it is an important one for you yeah well I feel like people who were there would go no you

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[11:29] so hard and be so clever to get there, it would be a bit much if it's my terrible A-levels. I suggested that I got in. So people that were not going there could go, could be in the, could perform there. [11:43] Yes, I think I just, I didn't lie, but I just certainly didn't tell anyone. So it can be taken back. You could be technically arrested for, yeah, at some point. Maybe. [11:55] So you go and you, do you remember how you had to audition for? I do remember going, I was in, there was a building called the Union Society. And this is when I did have my student card because I was actually at the teacher training thingy. And I [12:10] And there was a sign, it was handwritten in biro on the audition arrow. Oh, fun. So I went along and I didn't know it was the footlights. Wow. I know. And please, I didn't know. Yeah. And there were boys looking bored, sitting behind a desk and said, entertainers will sell something to us that looks like this isn't food. I went, okay. So there was a disgusting ashtray, which must have been there for years. [12:40] I picked up a fact, but that sounds weird in American English, doesn't it? Right, cigarette butt. Cigarette end. And I tried to sell it and... [12:52] It wasn't going very well. No one was laughing. So I ate it out of desperation. And they still didn't laugh. They just looked absolutely horrified. But they let me in because they thought, well, she's game. She's going to do some funny stuff.

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[13:22] improv and all that stuff for people. [13:24] a small number of people with friends in the hopes that someday you could do more of it yeah like what do you remember of those times well i because obviously as you know you will have to help write and everything i was terrible at the writing i just really enjoyed performing and being on stage and making people laugh is like the best like crack like the best thing is i said to me it was the closest feeling to being a vampire where you're just like i'm becoming a vampire [13:54] Oh, I've got goosebumps. I totally understand. Just like, look what I've done. There's this weird, powerful, in-control flush of excitement. Yeah. And so desperate to get that back. Yes, your whole life is chasing it again. Yeah. What was the first, do you remember the feeling of like the first big laugh, you know, where you did something and you watched people laugh at you and you thought, oh, I love this feeling? I don't know if I can remember that. No. [14:24] plays as a kid. I did my first ever school play when I was 16. And that was the prime of Miss Jean Brodie. So not a comedy. But... [14:33] I just remember people clapping at the end. And I'd always been so rubbish at school. I'd never... I couldn't wait for it to finish. You know, it doesn't really... I'd look out the window and found it really hard to concentrate. And then suddenly... [14:49] I committed to learning all of these lines. Suddenly, why couldn't I learn other stuff? But I would do that. And then when they clapped, that was the moment where I went.

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[15:00] It was like electricity coming out of your fingertips. Like, okay, get off, get off. No. [15:08] Loved it. Yeah. I mean, do you consider yourself a, were you an extroverted kid? Like, were you, were you, are people, um, [15:16] Not surprised that you ended up being an actor. [15:18] I don't know. I think as I've got older, I've got more and more shy in a way. And I think people knowing your face and you're not knowing their face puts you in a, you know, it's an... [15:31] Not an equal footing. I really relate to what you're saying about, even though I think people might think that it's funny that both of us are saying this, but getting a little shyer as you get older. Totally. I really relate to that. Yeah. What do you think that is? I think it is... [15:47] Thank you. [15:48] Well, as you know, as I said, that it's it's an unequal thing. So I love I don't know if you ever go to a country where maybe your shows aren't seen. Oh, yes. It's called the UK. [16:02] That's not true. But, you know, if well, if if you can walk, feel like you walk down the street and no one has done a double take or a nudge or a secret photo. Yeah, it feels amazing. Yes. I love that. [16:18] sounds like you're like you're you're you are an observer you like to observe people so when you're being observed it's a strange feeling yeah I find it discomforting and it means I don't want to go anywhere with my children I don't want people to you know see who they are yeah because it's

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[16:33] their decision to do what they want to do with their lives. And kids don't like, you don't even have to be an actor, kids just don't like sharing their parents with people. Yeah, I do understand that. Yeah, I know, and it's hard to... [16:47] explain to them that that is your work, but it is, it is, it's a universal feeling. The kids, kids want their parents when they want them. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. [16:57] I've been lucky compared to many people in our industry. I haven't had to be away from home that much. Yeah. And, uh, [17:04] And my youngest, so in recent years, I've had to be a bit more and I've [17:09] She hates it. [17:11] I sort of love it, actually. Yeah, right, because she's still missing you. [17:17] How old is your youngest? Yeah, youngest is 10. Okay, okay, right. So you still have some sweetness. Yeah, and really, she's really lovely. They're all lovely. I know. Does any of them want to be an actor? No, furious. Yeah. Livid with them. Yeah. I'm like, get up there and earn some money for this family. Just, they laugh at me. [17:41] It's a bit [17:42] You know, ab fab. And my big boy wants to be a physicist. Wow. I mean, just incredible. That's the only way you can rebel. Why can't he be a rock star? Totally. He goes, well, no one says, oh, why can't you be a rock star? [17:56] I do. I'm so sensible. Yeah. Physicist is smart. I mean, who employs physicists? These days, no one. No one. See? With long hair, forget it. He's never going to get through the door. Okay. So you're at Footlights. You're making all these friends. You're deciding. You know, what I love about your career and you is that you are the ultimate, to me, proof

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[18:26] well. [18:26] They can do anything. And I guess you came into the business doing comedy. When was was it? [18:34] Was it Tyrannosaur that switched? Was that... Yeah. Can you talk about that film and getting cast in that? Yeah. So comedy, I'd never... [18:43] intended I just found a place there and I really loved it yeah and um [18:50] I'd always imagined maybe... [18:52] from that first play at school, I thought maybe I could be an actor, but you didn't dare say it out loud. And... [18:59] And then it felt like there were two lists of actors as funny ones, not funny ones. And you can't cross over. It's absolutely not allowed. No. And it takes someone to really put their neck on the line to go, no, I would like them to do that. So it was Paddy Considine I met when we were doing Hot Fuzz. Yes. I was so excited to meet him. And I opened the door and grinned at him. Hello. And he decided in that moment, oh, she'd be right for my film. Wow. I know. [19:28] So always open the door, people. Always be nice. You never know. Wow. And it totally changed the trajectory, it's a word I find hard to do, of my career. Because it went to Sundance, and it was like this very lauded performance, and people saw this version of you, basically, and they said, oh, we can... I know, it's very... [19:51] Isn't it interesting how life is just... [19:55] Thank you. [19:55] Just the smallest changes and moves in your life. Yeah. Yeah.

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[19:59] and you're on another track. Yeah, totally. And so often having to wait for someone else to, you know, let that happen for you, which is frustrating. Yeah. But I'm so grateful to Paddy. Do you ever think to yourself, like, I'm in the mood right now to do something... [20:15] I'm in the mood right now to do something lighter. Do you think about that when you're picking stuff? [20:19] I don't know if I might do subconsciously. I always used to rely very much on gut feeling. Yeah. You know, and I feel a bit like I've lost that ability. I've gone a little bit. I don't know if that happens as well as we get older, but. [20:33] And sometimes I think I've... [20:35] I can't tell now. My agent has a great litmus test. So if you read it and you're unsure, if you're [20:44] Nemesis gets the part. Are you going to want to... [20:47] Ew. [20:48] pull your hair out. That's so funny. I think about that too. If I saw it a year later, like a trailer for it, and I was jealous. Yeah. If I thought, if I saw something. Okay. [20:59] I can let this go or now I have to fight for it. Yeah. Yeah. But, but, [21:04] Sorry, I didn't answer your question at all, did I? Did I go somewhere else? Well, why I ask is because you've been in all of my favorite things. When we look at all of the stuff that you've been in, your career is incredible, Olivia. Like you have done... Okay, but I want to stay with comedy for a second just because I feel like... [21:21] And I kind of made a joke about it earlier, but there is this thing with people our age where [21:27] The U.S. and U.K. were so connected in so many ways, but had completely different comedic experiences. There were only a few shows, in my opinion, that came over to us. Yeah. Like, it wasn't until I was in my 20s and 30s that I learned about all this great British comedy that I never got to see. Okay. And I, you know, you know, we got kind of the big ones, right, growing, like,

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[21:50] Monty Python and, you know, AbFab and stuff like that. But then there was this huge amount of shows that we never saw that you had to kind of search and find out and watch on, you know, VHS and trade with your friends. Yeah. [22:04] Did you have shows here in the States that you didn't know about or didn't watch that you had to kind of catch up and know about when you started becoming? Weirdly, sort of SNL, which is, you know. [22:17] It's like a little comedy heaven. I didn't know about that for so long. Yeah. Because I don't think it was shown on television in the UK. No. And it was only funny friends who were obsessed with it and went, what? What is it? And then started to look at it. Because this is pre-internet. We couldn't Google anything. We didn't have this high-tech stuff that I have. I have a laptop on my hand. That's very cool. And I can type in anything. Anything you want to know. [22:45] You want to know the recipe to something? [22:47] But yeah, but you couldn't clip anything you couldn't watch. So I remember watching like Alan Partridge and all this stuff on VHS. But yeah, 10 years after it was on. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's the same. We got and we still have, which I love. Every weekday morning on Channel 4, they have starts with Cheers, then King of Queens, then Everybody Loves Raymond, then Friends. No, sorry, Frasier. Same four shows? Yeah. I love it. Oh, my God. Cheers. Oh, my God. [23:17] Cheers. [23:18] How good is that show? It's so good. Ted Danson at his hottest best. And Sam and Diane, I mean, actually, there's a...

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[23:29] We'll get to your film, The Roses, but there's a lot of that kind of like that kind of back and forth repartee of I love you. I hate you. I love you. Yeah. So satisfying. So good. And when they kissed for the first time, millions watched. I know. And also that lovely Woody. I loved Woody. And Woody, who had the hardest job in the world because he took over for Coach. Oh, yes, of course. Yes. Who was an amazing character. Beloved. [23:59] passed away year one or two and you thought well they're just going to cover that. And then they bring in Woody who just crushes it. And then [24:08] The pilot of Cheers, if you've ever read, is just a perfectly written pilot. And me and Mike Schur, the creator of Parks and Rec, used to talk about it all the time. Because you have like seven characters you have to service really fast, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's such a good pilot. I love that. Oh, my God. I've got to watch the pilot. I'm going to find it. It's so good. And the ending of Cheers. Yeah. Yeah. [24:30] Okay, everyone loves Raymond, Frasier. [24:34] And what was the other one? King of Queens. King of Queens. Yeah. And you're like, what is this Queens? What do I need to know about Queens? I've got no idea what that is. But he is king of it. [24:48] Yeah. There was a few things that came over to us, but not a lot. You know, it took me, and sketch was one. Like, I didn't know about French and Saunders until 10 years after, you know, then everyone, same.

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[25:04] meeting funny people and they weren't talking about shows that I had like had to research. But I just think it's very interesting because that we're, we are, we're, [25:14] We are so alike, but our comedy was very specific and different. We had the premiere last night in New York with the Roses, and then we got London premiere on Thursday. And lots of, I wonder if audiences will laugh at different things. And I feel like that's not true anymore. I agree. Yeah. I don't think that's true. No, I think we all totally understand each other. Yeah. We'll find the same shit funny. We were laughing when we were preparing for this interview. We were saying, like, how... [25:39] You know, it is true. We believe that the Brits are smarter. They just sound smarter. Yeah. They do. That's not true. I know. And you know what taught us? [25:47] Love Island. I've said that's the first time I've ever been grateful to Love Island. [25:53] They taught us that. Because I can see people look disappointed when I open my mouth and I go, oh, see, you think I'm clever. I'm really not. But thank God Love Island. Yeah, Love Island really leveled the playing field. We were like, I see. Okay, we're all the same. We're all the same. [26:11] This episode is brought to you by Visible. How many of you are currently listening to this podcast on your phone? If you are chronically online, like we all are these days, your wireless network should be too. With Visible, you get unlimited 5G data and unlimited hotspot, all powered by Verizon's 5G network. The perks of big wireless for half the cost. Visible isn't just a wireless plan, it's unlimited wireless designed to always keep you connected and no contract holding you back.

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[28:33] But a show that I've since now seen that I didn't know at the time was Bruiser. [28:39] Which was like your first. You've seen Bruiser? Well, I've seen clips of Bruiser. Okay. But Bruiser was like your first sketch show. First ever job. My first ever job. Yeah. And that was, how old were you? What year was that? It was my last year of drama school. I have a weird thing where I can't do dates. Same. So I know I did my A-levels in 1992 because I had to say it so often. Yeah. But beyond that, I'm not entirely sure what happened. [29:09] David Mitchell, Rob Webb, Martin Freeman, Charlotte Hudson. And that's just like sketches and you all look like babies. And you're all doing like fun, dumb sketches. I haven't seen it. I bet lots of it's terrible. [29:25] Well, sketch is, I mean, 80% bad. Like the batting averages, you have just like hope for a couple of winners. Well, Mitch and Webb have just done a new sketch show. And sketch shows just haven't happened for a long time. I know. [29:40] I think about that a lot. I mean, for me, the... [29:42] best last sketch show other than SNL that I've seen is Key and Peele. Did you watch Key and Peele? My boys were talking about that. I think that the Brits don't know about Key and Peele as much, but that was a big show over here. And they were just like deeply funny and good. Like they were really, really good. Oh, I'm going to find that. Okay. And so then, okay, but then

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[30:04] There's all this stuff you do between... [30:09] you know, Broadchurch, basically. There's all this, because that Broadchurch for us is really, I think, when we really start to get to know you. I remember you from your little moment in the office, the UK office, because I was obsessed with the UK office, and the picture moment with David and Jessica and with Ricky. But we get to really know you and you and David at the same time. Oh, yeah. Lovely dating. Lovely. Tell me about your relationship. You guys are buddies. [30:39] David Tennant. I know. He seems so... I'd love to meet him. Oh, he's so nice. You'd love him. Tell me why he's so great. He... [30:46] is [30:48] There's nothing arsehole about him at all. And we simply just would sit and talk about, we'd do farts in the police car. And he'd go, oh, Jesus Christ. And he was just like a buddy. And we'd tell stories and he'd... [31:07] He wanted to be at home with his wife and family, and I wanted to be at home. Yes. Isn't that the best when you work with people who want to be at home? Yeah. I love it. Let's get this done. Let's get it done. All you're afraid to get home, get the fuck off about home. And also he was so, always knew his lines, was always on it, always just, [31:26] Just beautiful at his fingertips. And then, you know, when the AD comes to knock on the door, we had a two-way, it's not as rude as it sounds, you know, van. And also our loos were back-to-back. And I was going to go, David, are you in there? He goes, stop listening to me.

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[31:46] I'm doing the same as you. [31:49] But when the AD would come and knock on the door and say, it's time, we would try and race each other. He would always, he didn't want to delay anyone. He was never late. [31:56] Favourite. Love and love. [31:58] Just gorgeous. Everybody loved him, but just real. It proves my point, Olivia, I've said before. I find that [32:06] for the most part, with the exception of a few eccentric, original performers, the most talented people are often the most professional. Like, they're the easiest to work with. Always. And I've been so lucky to work with two of my gods, Meryl Streep and Anthony Hopkins. They never would have kept anyone waiting. Yes. And then you learn from that, you go, see. No, and they set such a tone. Yes. They are polite to everyone. They know everyone's name. They know their job. They know their lines. [32:36] on time. I mean, I have in any profession, I do have a theory that like people that are acting out of fear or afraid that this is their last good idea or that, you know, a lot of people act out for a lot of reasons. Yeah. But [32:49] And I do understand that. I do too. And as I get older, also people just work differently. But the professional part, when you meet your hero and they also are that way, it's just the best. It's so important. Yeah. And just a friend recently did a show and I don't want to sort of... [33:06] There are some of the younger people who... [33:10] I don't know where it comes from, but if they have a little bit of a cold, they won't do the show. Oh. And I don't understand. Right. When we were told. This is very Gen X of us. You know that. I'm aware that I'm doing that. Same, which is the way. I think it's their fault, but someone has told them wrong.

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[33:27] Well, [33:29] Okay, let's get into this because... Oh, no. No. I'm going to be counseled. No, I agree, and I'm trying to work on it because here's the two things. Mm-hmm. [33:38] I think that we were sold a productivity myth. Yeah. Right? Like hustle, hustle, hustle. Okay, yeah. And it's really ingrained in us. Like there's no way I would have ever called in sick. I mean, I remember doing a scene with Alec Baldwin for a movie, and I had like 104 temperature, and I had to cry. I hate that power of seasonal. And I was like, I was on another planet, and he was like, wherever you are, stay there. Perfect. And I was like, I am in a fever dream. I have 104 temperature. [34:08] completely, but never in a million years ever would I have not. No, I see retrospect potentially maybe that was a day to not be at work. Potentially, yeah. Potentially not a good choice. Yeah. So I kind of understand that. [34:19] This idea of like maybe take care of yourself, Gen Xers, a little bit more than you did and not pressure everybody to hustle. But perhaps we've overcorrected. I think there's a happy medium, isn't there? I agree. But a little bit of a tickle in the background. I don't think I can. I don't think that's OK. Yeah. I've had pneumonia twice and never missed a day of work while filming. OK. But also potentially stupid. You've had pneumonia while filming. Yeah. Yeah. You're my kind of gal. [34:49] I never missed one day of work on Parks and Rec. I did 120 shows. Fuck yeah. And that's weird. And people think that's a weird statistic because they're like, well, okay.

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[35:03] Maybe not something to brag about. And I'm like, is it not? I think it is. I agree. But perhaps I was setting an example that what, you know, both are true. Both are true. But I know what you mean. I just love a pro. I love a nice pro. Yeah. Because a working environment should be... [35:25] And it's just hard enough to just do... [35:29] Life. It's hard enough to do life without somebody being difficult. And we're lucky to have the work beyond. Don't be sort of overly cocky with that. Yes, agree. And Broadchurch... [35:44] It makes sense to me that you and David loved each other because you can really feel it in the show. You feel like true partners in that show. Yeah. And even though in the show you're getting to be partners. But there was such a feeling of mutual respect on that. It was so good. And what was it like to have that blow up? It was a huge hit. Yes, that was very exciting. [36:06] Oh, I... Because... [36:08] No one knew who had done it. That was what they wanted. Although when I went for my first audition, my sort of meet with the producers and I said, who did it? And they told me. And I went, oh, and cried. And they went, that's great. That's all you got. And then... [36:24] And on the way home, 20 minutes after I'd left, they phoned and went, can you pretend that we didn't tell you? We've realized we don't want anyone to know. We wanted to. I went, oh, OK. So I had to lie. And David was so croft. One day, his agent accidentally let slip right near the end of months of filming. And he flew onto my van. I went, you fucking didn't tell me. And I knew what he meant. I just couldn't look at him. Oh, because he didn't know either? He didn't know. No one knew. Oh, wow. But you knew. Whatever.

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[36:54] You had faces, you know, all the 10 by 8 faces in the makeup van and everyone was putting a sticker on who they thought it was. And I was also going, is it? That might be me. Am I trying to? Terrible at lying. Wow. So you were reading the scripts in real time, basically. Oh, that's very fun. It was really fun. And what a great way to be able to. And kind of what a bummer that you knew because you would have been, you know, like everyone else. But you had that secret. Yeah. Oh, that's fun. It was fun. Oh, that's good. [37:24] yeah I said you can't believe you didn't tell me and uh you're like I'm a pro babe yeah I'm a pro and also I'd lied so much I'd almost forgotten that I knew do you think you would be good um convincing uh [37:37] Are you a good liar? Like, do you think you'd be? Yeah. Without a script, I'm appalling. [37:42] Yeah. You could, they can. [37:46] I don't know. I think I'm okay. Like, I think sometimes could I convince a jury? Like if I. Oh, wow. That's an excellent. Could you convince someone? I feel like I could convince a jury. [37:55] That you didn't do it. Yes. [37:57] Thank you. [37:58] As long as my kids weren't in the jury, I think I'd be fine. Your kids would know. They go, you totally did it. I haven't said it. Do you have a tell when you lie? [38:08] I'm sure I do, too. I'd like someone to tell me what it is so I can work on it. But I think I over explain. [38:14] I think I say too many things. Oh, you know when you watch... [38:18] Traitors. [38:19] Yes. Oh, I love it when I love it when they ask someone something to go, what they have to. They say always what? They're stalling. They yeah. And they do it subconsciously. It's amazing. Have you ever watched any of those body language things where they show, you know, if you look up to the right or if you touch your. One's recalling information, one's lying. Yes. Or if you touch your face or like your neck. I know if you touch your neck, it's because you're about to say a lie. All these kind of.

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[38:49] I love when people stall and you go... [38:54] It's so good, isn't it? What did you say? Yeah. Sorry, what? I'm so sorry. What? Didn't hear you. [39:01] But I also get sweaty when you have to play those games. Have you ever played that game Mafia? Oh, yeah. I don't like that game. I love it. You love it. I love it. Okay, because? We play it almost every night on holiday. Ew! And we've discovered as well, any parents that get killed, it's always their kids that have done it. It's definitely. Always. [39:24] or spouse. Yep. And, uh, yeah. One family that we go on holiday with every year, their kids are terrifying at it. Really good. So good. And the, the youngest one, [39:36] Got so cross with everyone accusing her that we went, of course, she's not. She was over-explaining. She was doing what you say. Yes. I'm not. I had to move because really angry. And she's only 13. And she was, we went, oh, no, she's probably not. Maybe don't. Give her a chance. She was absolutely killing everyone. She was the murderer. At night when everyone had their eyes closed. [39:57] Amazing. Yeah. I get very stressed. I get very giggly when I get accused and very stressed. [40:05] And, you know, [40:06] Also, [40:08] I feel like I act the same when I'm the murderer or not, but I must not. But I don't think I would pass a lie detector test. Let me just say that. I don't think I would. My heart would beat. Yeah. But I think I could win over a jury. Yeah. I think I would say, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, why would I want to kill my spouse? Or whatever.

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[40:29] And I'd be able to cry. You're a good crier. And you love to cry. I do. [40:35] Are you an easy crier? One of my great scales. [40:38] In everyday life, I don't cry so much. [40:41] Do you have tricks for crying? No, if it's sad, I'll cry. Yeah. If the script is sad. So Broadchurch, that first day, it was filmed chronologically, which was just a gift. Amazing. But they were saying, no, she's a police officer. She's probably a little harder than that. Absolutely. There's no way. I'm sorry. I can't. She's a dead child. And so, making me sad. [41:09] If it's good script, it's impossible not to. But in your life, you're not the biggest crier? Really? Oh, in The Crown as well, there was this, because the Queen famously was able to be there for other people and not cry. And I couldn't do it. There's a scene where Helena Bonham Carter is telling me about Aberfan, which is amazing. [41:31] It was a terrible, terrible thing that happened. Terrible. And I couldn't hear her. Yeah, it was beautifully done. I couldn't hear her talking about it without crying. Yes. And they kept going, okay, no. No crying. No, I can't. So the sound department gave me an earpiece, and I listened to the shipping forecast. [41:50] So in my ear, I was hearing south at Syrah, north at Syrah, weather further middling. And I was just listening to that. [41:57] and zoning out while Helena said, I can't believe our first scene together. And you're not actually listening to me.

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[42:05] Wow. And that's really, that's a good tip. That's a great tip. Listen to something else. [42:10] don't listen to your act of acting. I mean, I always say half of acting is like just keeping your face still, which is almost impossible for me to do. Botox helps enormously. But the way in which everyone just projects everything on your still face. Yeah. You and Helena in The Crown are, I mean, so wonderful. And I know you've, you're really good friends too. Yeah. And did you meet on that chat? Yeah. Yeah, we did. You had never worked together before. No. No. [42:35] I think we'd met once. [42:39] at a do and I'd sort of curtsied to her and uh and yes she's just lovely. I mean I know people have asked about meeting the queen and and [42:52] playing the queen, but separate from the actual queen, [42:56] the character of that woman, [42:58] woman is so interesting. I know, fascinating. You know, forget, you know, I know you're playing [43:05] a version of a real person and you're playing a real person but just the the legacy of that just one just the idea of one life yeah spanning that much yeah it's so amazing it's i totally agree it's an extraordinary that literally well most people there's someone else in the world who has a similar experience no one [43:29] No one. That's one person standing on their own. I know. Sitting every week to various prime ministers, you know, listening to them, having the...

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[43:38] Thank you. [43:38] hearing everything and just having to keep it together. It's such a practice in restraint, just a life of restraint. And also, to your point, being around while everyone else comes and goes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Being the constant while, I mean, I loved the way that that show took on the... [43:56] width and breadth of that life. The crown. That person is the crown. And the way you take it from Claire, that you take over that moment when you show up in seasons two, three, four? Three and four, yeah. [44:12] When you show up and we think, oh, my, Olivia is now the queen. Like, it's exhilarating. Terrifying, following on from Claire. Was it? Yeah, because I loved it. It was so highly advertised that I didn't want to like it. Yeah. In that sort of show. Totally. Yeah. Yeah, everyone likes it. Oh, okay. No, thanks. And then I accidentally watched it with one eye open and went, oh, no, I love it. Love Claire. So good. Couldn't stop watching her. Mm-hmm. [44:42] I would like to meet you for... [44:44] I think my agent said... [44:46] for the Queen and I thought that was the play and oh and she said no no I didn't mean that I didn't mean that meant the crown and I and I went oh my god yeah fuck yeah absolutely yes please and she said I think you're not meant to say that yet you're meant to just waste and yeah yeah [45:04] I was such a huge fan of it. Yes. Yes. And also it came at the point where I just spent all my tax money. So you're like, let's go. Really handy. Let's go. And did you talk to Claire? Did you talk to Claire? Were you, did you talk about like handing off the tort? You know, handing. So someone said, it might be a good idea if you want to, we can give you Claire's number. Yeah. And so I did speak to Claire and said really, honestly, truthfully, it's a long commitment, long job.

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[45:34] fucking loved it yeah it's a happy job and yeah everyone's nice yes okay [45:40] That's great. I mean, there is a whisper network among actresses, especially, I think, when you're going to try to take a job, when you're lucky enough to have the choice to take a job. Yeah. Where you call other people to say, yeah, should I? Is this OK? I love that code as well. We do go. I. [45:57] Or there's the word tricky. It can be tricky. I got on quite well with them, but I know that some other people did. So sort of politely letting you know. [46:08] Maybe this isn't a simple decision. Another code is like, well, the hours can be kind of long, which is a code for the directors a little unorganized. Yeah. Like I think that the scripts aren't ready. Yeah. And the scripts can come in a little late. And I cried a few times. But as far as the job. Yeah. And I. [46:30] Helena and you, I just want to stay there for one second because – [46:35] I love watching you work with everyone, but I especially love watching you work with other people. [46:40] super talented women and you've worked with a lot of really great women. I'm really lucky, yeah. When you meet each other on screen. I love women. Me too. I mean, it's honestly hard to work with men. [46:53] I'm so sorry. I'm sure it was easy with Benedict, but like, I mean, we have to, but look. I know. It's hard. Bless them. They're just not as good. They're just not as good. True. But I do, too. I love working with women, and I can tell you do, too. Yeah, I do. Who are some women that you've worked with that you just went, Helena, I'm sure, is one, but like, Helena, who that you just worked with, and you said, oh, I'm going to have the best time. I mean, Jodie Whittaker on Broadchurch, Helena, on the crown.

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[47:23] And Marianne, who played the Queen Mother on the Crown, just loved her. [47:29] I always take a good girlfriend with me from almost every job. What do you mean? Like who? [47:35] Uh. [47:36] Well... [47:37] Helly. Jodie is now godmother to my youngest. We had our youngest at the same time while on Broadchurch. And Phoebe, Phoebe Willerbridge. [47:48] And Amy Morgan, who probably won't have heard of, but I think she's extraordinary. And we met doing a play. And so there's always one. And on the roses, there's Zoe, Sunita. Yes. Alison. I know. Kate McKinnon. We have Kate coming in. And Kate is such a. Is she coming in? She's coming to do this podcast. Tell me today while I'm here. [48:09] It is. Are you lying? I'm not lying, but you're not you're going to be you're not going to be here. She's you. We're not going to make you wait for Kate because we have a little bit of a, you know, you got to get on that plane. But you can leave. You want to leave a note for her? Yeah, she's coming in today. OK. And she's so isn't she such a wild, interesting, eccentric bird? She came. So we had a girl's trip to where I live in the countryside in England while we were filming. [48:39] Thank you. [48:40] My daughter couldn't believe her luck. Yes, she is fun. She's fun. And she played, she was, I think... [48:46] a pea hen or something for about three hours. So fucking hell. It was amazing. My little girl was going...

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[49:01] Phoebe Fleabag, huge, another huge shell. Yeah. And, well, I mean, she's an amazing woman. Yeah. And she... [49:10] No, she's... [49:11] brilliant at what she does and she works hard and she's really driven and kind to everybody and yeah just another fucking fantastic woman yeah and that first episode of the second season of uh fleabag which was with andrew scott and sitting around the dining the that restaurant table yes felt like the most brilliant [49:32] Brilliant play. Yes. And... [49:35] just that whole episode one dinner scene. I just love the way she writes. Yeah. And she gives everybody. So many good jokes. Just generous. I mean, you have also so many good jokes in that show. Yeah. Great jokes. Yeah. That character is hilarious and deeply disturbing. Yeah. And I got it wrong initially. I was playing her sort of quite evil. And I was going to be like, [49:58] It's not what you meant, is it? Well, I... [50:00] She's the most charming person in any room. [50:04] she'll be vile to you and you sort of [50:06] thank you for everything sort of being grateful for the you know she's yes it's so vile i mean it's like yeah she's she's like an alt the ultimate narcissist yeah yeah and when you're that way you're usually quite charming yeah yeah you're not usually like there's a way in which you draw people in and then you slowly kill them um and then the the the the [50:29] Before we get to the roses, I just, I feel like...

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[50:33] There was this beautiful couple of years where America said. I just realized, I just said how much I love women. And I've just done a film with Benedict as well. But Benedict feels like he's sensitive enough that he counts. Oh, my God, he does. He really does. I feel awful. I loved working with Benedict. Well, we're going to talk about working with Benedict. Okay, good. He's going to be fine. Okay, good. Great. Benedict can handle it. Yeah. Yeah. And Andy. I love Andy. Andy's fine. And Jamie. Of course, you love all the people. They know. [51:03] I do love the people. They know. Sorry to interrupt. No, no, not at all. But I'm not worried about Benedict. Okay. Okay, good. He's so tall. Yeah. We don't have to worry about him. No, he'll be fine. He will be fine. Yeah. [51:16] But no, but we will talk about that because... [51:19] But there was this like amazing couple of years where we got to see a lot of work being done. [51:27] You were congratulated when you won that award, when you won the Academy Award, right? And you've won a lot of awards. And what I loved about that moment was what I felt in that moment and tell me if I'm wrong, is that you probably feel about awards. [51:42] the same way I feel about a wardrobe. She's like, [51:44] Lovely, but, like, also who cares? [51:47] Yeah, I don't know. That's an awkward thing. Yeah, I... Okay, maybe I should say it less bluntly. Like... Well, I... [51:55] I feel like, oh my God, it is the most lovely. If your peers have said a seal of approval, there's nothing better. Yes. But I think also...

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[52:05] Give yourself a few days to feel pretty thrilled with yourself. Yes. Then forget it ever happened. Go back to work. That's right. Yeah. It was amazing and it might never happen again. And weren't you lucky? And now head down. I find that Brits in general accept awards really well because they do just that. They kind of like stay in the moment and say thank you. And they're very polite. But also you can tell they're like, I can't internalize this or I'm in trouble. [52:35] It is a little bit more American to be like, [52:38] I made it to the top of the mountain and I'm here and I'm never getting off. And I knew it and I got it and I went for it. But they're completely different feelings. But your speech was amazing. [52:50] I know it's hard to think about yourself and talk about yourself. It's always hard to talk about yourself. But do you have a sense of why that speech was so well received? Everyone felt very with you in that moment. It felt really organic. What were your memories of getting up and giving that speech and being inside of it? What did it feel like? So much I don't really remember. But just beforehand, in the build-up to it, [53:20] the build-up people kept saying Oscars and I'd go stop it and I got furious it was all too scary terrifying don't be ridiculous and then I was like [53:29] On the evening, that 20 minutes before we were meant to go, my husband went, don't be cross. But just in case, I've just put some notes on a piece of paper. And he went out and I went, just fucking wanker.

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[53:41] Okay, that's quite a good thing to do. Okay. So he just said, just remember, if it happens to say this or say that, say thank you. And so it was – I would have – [53:56] Well, I'm stuttering now. I would have been so useless. It was absolutely real and shocking. But if it wasn't for him, just take five minutes, just in case. Ed. To think about it, I know. Writer, producer, director. He took care of you in that moment. And General Hottie. Yeah. General Hottie. And also the moment you guys had was so sweet, too. I mean, you have a wonderful, long-lasting marriage with Ed. Yeah. And you met, where did you meet? In the town of Cambridge. [54:23] He was at Cambridge. Olivia's crying a little bit. I see. [54:28] Who not? [54:31] You love Ed. He's your best friend. You call him your best friend. I love love. He's my best friend and I fancy him. I love love. Okay, how did you meet? You have his name. I do have his name. It's a bit like he's pissed on me. It was my choice. He just stamped it on you. Okay, how did you meet? We met in a play rehearsal. [54:53] And I'd gone to two of the rehearsals and there wasn't no one particularly fanciable there. And then I walked in and I saw his left hand profile. And at the time he was smoking a ziggy, his feet were crossed and he's got this lovely bump in his nose. And I saw his side profiles went, oh, God, I'm going to marry him.

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[55:15] No. I had proper thunderbolts. That's him. That's him. Yeah. I know. Poor thing. He didn't know. [55:25] And what does he say about it the first time he met you? He genuinely can't remember. [55:34] That's so great. I mean, what is the secret to a long lasting relationship? Any tips? Any advice? No. Because you're making a movie about the opposite of that. [55:45] 25th wedding anniversary next year. Wow. We've been together 31 years. Wow. [55:51] uh, [55:53] I don't think it's, we're not big fighters, which apparently isn't very healthy. Okay, can we talk about this for a second? I agree. I see a lot of [56:01] research that says you really should argue and fight. [56:06] okay, like it feels so like, what if you're not, I mean, I don't, I'm not afraid of conflict, but I don't necessarily like want to search it out. And yeah, I don't want to argue. And I do think that, [56:19] Thank you. [56:19] It is OK. We have learned over this, but really late on, actually, to sometimes if that was annoying, then just wait for it. [56:29] until it's uh it doesn't work for everyone i know that yeah and uh but we i i think it's better to wait till the much calmer moment to go can we talk about that moment and i did find that a little weird and is that okay that i'm saying this and yes no i do yeah i was a bit cross that day and okay but good okay i'm so pleased thank you okay you know um that by far that's the most british

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[56:59] Maggie Chilenhaw stood when we did The Lost Daughter. Beautiful movie. Ed, different Ed, was the costume designer and me. He's English and I'm English. And he was talking about a hat. And he said, I left the hat out. I didn't know if he wanted it. I went, oh, I see. I didn't know if, did you want me to wear it now? But if you like it. No, I do like it. I just wondered because it's, and this went on for 20 minutes. And Maggie, at the time it was COVID, she took her mask down and went, [57:25] Oh, my God. Nothing has been said. 20 minutes. Yes. Yeah. And I've never realized it before that moment when she just. [57:38] Yeah. So that's how we argue. And OK, so it leads me really naturally into the film that that's out right now with the great Benedict Cumberbatch. [57:55] And, you know, so I ask people before these podcasts to give me a question to ask my guests. And we speak well behind their back, like I said. And he was, you know, of course, he's like absolutely adores you. And you guys have never worked together before, which is really interesting. Yeah. And like you, I think he's able to he's shown that he's able to toggle between a bunch of different styles and genres. [58:21] Also, it makes me think sometimes that [58:23] Thank you. [58:24] You know, [58:26] Maybe it's a bit more... [58:28] licensed to do that in the UK than the US. I don't know. Well, to go between drama and comedy. Maybe. I'm thinking about it now. Because, you know, Emma Thompson and Kathy Burke. And we do have a line of, well, I'm just thinking of the women, but we do have a long line of people who've been allowed to do both. Well, I remember people talking about Hugh Laurie in-house. And it was like, you know, Hugh Laurie started in sketch comedy. Sketch comedy. Yeah, yeah.

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[58:58] sweet actor question, which is basically like he is in awe of you and what you can do. And he was like, is there anything you're afraid of? [59:07] Acting wise. Well, I couldn't really tell. I couldn't really tell what the question was. Okay. But let's say sure. Let's say acting wise. Anything might have to show any skin. [59:19] No, I don't like it. No, thank you. I don't like it. No, thank you. Or pretending to have sex with someone. I don't like it. [59:27] I don't like it. [59:30] I feel like I'm being unfaithful. And it just feels a bit, yeah. Even when they go, you can wear your jeans and a cushion between you. I don't want to do that. That's not what I don't know. I don't know. The on screen. And by the way, bless the people that are good at it. The people that are good at it, I'm like, I'll watch it all day long. Yeah. And they're comfy. But are they on screen orgasm? No. Absolutely not. [59:59] that's what you have to do that day. Like that's, that's tough. Thank God for intimacy coordinators. Absolutely. Ita O'Brien, who isn't, she told me when I was about to orgasm, I went, oh, God, how do you do that? She said, imagine the sun is hitting your face. [1:00:15] That was great. And you just go like this. [1:00:22] You go, oh my god. You just put your sunglasses on.

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[1:00:29] You should have done it like that. [1:00:33] Yeah, okay. You got your answer better today. You got your answer. But what was it like working with him on the film? I loved working with him. He's... [1:00:42] He sort of feels like one of... [1:00:44] life's innocence in a way, you know, because we had such fun. But when it started to get a little bit more cruel to each other, he did go, can we pause for a minute? Are we okay? Yeah. Yes, Ben, it's pretend. It's all okay. And, you know, he gets, he's, [1:01:02] He's so in it. And it's just... [1:01:05] lovely but i felt like i wanted to hold his hand a lot and go it's it's all we're good we're still friends yes yeah and and it's lovely to work opposite him because he's absolutely feeling it it's all instant i bet i mean even just seeing the way in which you the two watching the two of you spar is is really exciting because it's two very good actors going really hard and plus there's just a ton of like dumb physical stuff which is so fun do you like doing that no no me neither i [1:01:35] I don't want to do any running. Yeah, I don't want to. But he is really good at that, which is great. So I just had the gun and he just ran around. [1:01:44] And you're like, I think my character would sit. Yeah. And then Jay Roach. Oh, my God. Isn't he a delight, the director? I love him. I love him. And I felt bad for him every day because it was like time to nail jelly to the wall, trying to get us all to stop giggling or stop doing bits and just joking. Also...

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[1:02:04] How often does he hit his head? [1:02:07] Oh, because he's so tall. He wears a hat as well. He doesn't see the booms and the lights. And the crew ended up hanging sticky tape down from everything. So he still did it 15 times a day. Oh, it's got to be some kind of psychological thing that he's doing. He can't get cross with us. He did a setback thing. [1:02:28] And then, OK, we talked about Kate. You worked with Andy. OK, the movie is out. OK, and then my last question is... [1:02:36] And I ask everybody and it's kind of like a like the the reason why I started doing this podcast genuinely was to try to, I don't know, make sense of this wicked world and find some solace in what everybody was doing to keep themselves alive. [1:02:53] Laughing? What do you watch, read, read? [1:02:59] Do what's making you laugh right now today, big or small? [1:03:05] A person, a video, a show, old or new that you go to. The thing that makes me laugh more than anything, belly laugh, it doesn't happen often enough, is watching my husband fall over or hit his head. [1:03:20] On purpose or by accident? By accident. You just love an accident. It literally makes me go weak. I collapse. It's so good. [1:03:29] funniest home videos. Have you ever seen that show? Oh, that's the sort of standby. Okay. I've seen a clip recently where people just lie down with their, have you seen this?

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[1:03:42] so I turn around and Ed's lying down. You just see his head there. And people go, ah! And they film, oh, that's gorgeous. Do you like being pranked? I've got to do that, haven't I? Film Ed. Yes. Okay, don't tell him, don't tell him. Do you like being pranked? No. No, if someone makes me jump, I will punch them in the face. Me too, I don't like being surprised. I am fight, not flight. But you like when people get a tiny bit hurt? Yeah. [1:04:10] But they're fine, right? They have to jump up. [1:04:12] Fine, as long as they're okay. I don't, if it looks like, oh God, that looks like. Sorry, sorry, sorry. [1:04:18] Okay, let's watch just two minutes of this and we're going to let you go. This is the best day ever. I mean, I know what you mean. Okay, these kind of things. Do I need my glasses? We're watching an America's Funniest Home Videos. [1:04:29] That person's stuck in the ceiling. So that person doing something and she's stuck in the ceiling. [1:04:39] Okay, that might have been too hard a fall. Have you seen the two women trying to get into the window? [1:04:49] Oh, yeah. Oh, God. That is... [1:04:54] Let's watch the two women get trying to get in the window. Yes. That is so funny. And the other one is no help at all outside, clearly trying not to piss herself. [1:05:03] Yeah, when people start, when they're stuck and they start laughing, that does. Two women trying to get into a window. Okay, here we go. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, let's watch. Here we go. Here we go. Okay, they're trying to get in the window. And one of them is giving the other one a foot up. She's not wearing the right clothes for this.

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[1:05:23] that already. She's wearing a, she's both barefoot. Here. Her shirt comes off. That's right. Her shirt comes off. So she's outside the hand with these boobs, which are now facing that way. And her mate. And her clothes come off. And they're dying laughing. I mean, this is the kind of thing that Benny Hill told [1:05:53] would happen and it did happen. It actually happened. Oh my god. I love that. I do too. There's no better feeling. That makes me want to watch that again. And hearing them weak when you can't speak. Yes. And knowing that one person is peeing. [1:06:14] And if the upside down woman was also peeing. [1:06:20] Well, Olivia, I love you. [1:06:23] Thank you so much for coming. And what I know is a long, impressed day. And if you want to leave a note for Kate, let me know. Oh, yes, please. Has Kate seen that? [1:06:34] I'm going to show it. She would enjoy that. She's probably, she probably is like reenacted it. I was going to say. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. I want you to come and stay. Okay. Can I come to your house, please? Thank you. [1:06:52] Okay, today's Polar Plunge is presented by Visible. It's one-line wireless running on Verizon's 5G network. For great coverage and a reliable connection, make the switch at visible.com. Okay, for this Polar Plunge, I'm going to say that everybody should check out a film that we briefly mentioned in this interview, The Lost Daughter. It is with Olivia Colman, directed beautifully by Maggie Gyllenhaal, and with the great Dakota Johnson, who came in here with her puppy just a little while ago to our show.

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[1:07:22] are so great together. It's such a meditation on motherhood. Jesse Buckley's so good in it. And it's just, you know, it's just one of those movies where you're like, [1:07:31] Damn. [1:07:32] Thank you. [1:07:34] Those ladies are good at acting. That's what you say. You say, wow, those broads are good at acting. But check it out if you haven't seen it. It's a beautiful, beautiful film. But today's Polar Plunge was presented by Visible, the ultimate wireless hack. It's one-line wireless with unlimited data, hotspot talk, and text starting at $25 a month. Terms apply. See Visible.com for planned features and network management details. Okay, that's the end of our show. Bye. [1:08:04] The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, and Alaya Zanaris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles. [1:08:29] Kroger makes it easier than ever to satisfy all your protein and fiber needs with our exclusive brands. Now you can find these extra benefits in the foods you already know and love. Snack smarter with Simple Truth Protein Salsa Verde Tortilla Chips. Or grab a Simple Truth Protein Energy Bar or flavored protein water when you're on the go. [1:08:50] Stop by Kroger and discover new favorites today.

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